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16th Oct 2023, 06:46 PM #1
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What Respirator for spray painting
Hi all,
I plan to do a bit of spray painting in the future, mainly just small jobs with oil based enamel but also considering using iso based 2k due to it being harder wearing.
So just looking at suggestions on what type of respirator would work best.
I know there are battery powered respirators available. I actually use a 3m adflo welding helmet at work, but not sure if something like that would be suitable for spray painting.
I've seen some that run from compressed air as well.
Then there is the face mask style.
Just looking for recommendations.
Thanks
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16th Oct 2023, 10:04 PM #2
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I use one of these 3M spray masks.
https://sydneytools.com.au/product/3...rator-kit-a1p2
Not expensive and goes the job well with enamels etc.
Unless something has changed recently I’ve always understood that the isocyanates in 2pak paints can’t be filtered out - so the only option is supplied air masks.
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16th Oct 2023, 11:06 PM #3
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Agree, with the exception that I've always found that the linked type of respirator isn't 100% efficient as they can't be moulded to my exact face shape. When I'm working with dust of any type there is always a bit of it on my face around the sides of my nose, and I've probably used five or six different brands over the years.
For occasional use like I do it's probably not an issue, but for someone doing it regularly like the OP proposes I think it would be safest to make sure whatever you're using gives a 100% seal, especially with the solvents in paints which don't leave visible traces.
Same.
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17th Oct 2023, 07:50 AM #4
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What about something like this, looks to be good value at $30, I had a look at an equivalent from a shop and they run at about $400.
Apparently can be converted to air feed to do 2k.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30429919...mis&media=COPY
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17th Oct 2023, 08:22 AM #5
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For that price I’d give it a go if you think that style is going to suit you.
You still need to buy cartridges for it on top of that cost.
Likely it’s made of inferior materials compared to the $400 one - but as long as it doesn’t leak then nothing to lose really. Probably can’t get spares for it unless it’s a direct copy of a branded one, and given it’s got the face shield it will definitely be higher maintenance than a half face one.
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17th Oct 2023, 08:08 PM #6
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Think it comes with cartridges, whether they are the right type for paint fumes, I'm not sure.
Had a quick look on aliexpress and plenty of parts around, filters you can get 5 pairs for $50.
You can also get stick on protectors for the visor so you don't damage it.
I'll probably grab one for the enamel based paint and sanding etc.
I'll need to look into a supplied air feed for the 2k paint, maybe something like this with an oil less compressor.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12430571...mis&media=COPY
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17th Oct 2023, 09:07 PM #7
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Get compatible cartridges that are certified to comply with the relevant Australian Standard:
P1 Face Mask P1 respirators are certified as filtering 80% of airborne particles, such as dusts, grass clippings, and mould spores (>1μm in size). P2 Face Mask The P2 class is certified as filtering 95% of small airborne particles (>0.3 μm in size). This class is useful for filtering certain toxic dusts such as welding fumes and asbestos. P3 Face Mask P3 offers the highest protection to users and filters out 99.95% of particles (particles <0.3 μm in size). This class of respirators can be used for toxic dusts including fumes and asbestos, however, this level of protection is only achieved with a powered air-purifying respirator or a full-face respirator.
https://www.airmet.com.au/events/new...tive-equipment
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18th Oct 2023, 09:57 AM #8
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When I started in the paint game 30 years ago there were a lot of guys spraying in shorts and thongs because of the heat where I am. Those guys aren't around any more. Just saying 2k is not good for the health it absorbs through the skin that's why you need full coverage not just masks. You don't say where you are spraying but without proper exhaust filters up here if you get caught by the council they jump on you from a great height with no warnings. If a neighbor started spraying 2k in a domestic situation I'd deck the bastard. If you must use 2k rent a booth or there are ways to brush it.
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18th Oct 2023, 06:00 PM #9
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When I painted my rally car in 2 pack 10 years ago I did quite alot of research. I ended up buying a Sundstrom SR200 mask. To this I fitted a paper filter, dust filter, carbon canister and I think it was an ABC (??????) type filter. I could not detect any fumes and this combination was supposed to be bang on.
I have since bought the compressed air adaptor for that mask but have not used it as I am yet to install suitable drying and de-oiling facilities to my air (a must have).
As said above, 2 packs are nasty but with a FULL cover suit, gloves and decent respirator go for it...........
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