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  1. #16
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    Steran the engine was a 2011 Evinrude ETec 130hp parts were very pricey and likely had to be ordered from the USA to keep the rebuild within a limited amount, the engine i have now is a Mercury 90hp EFI 2009 i now have two blown powerheads as i was ripped off on the replacement from ebay that was one of those blown up this is the engine below

    what really cheesed me off was i bought the new powerhead as a "good running order" it arrived a few weeks after i bought it from Darwin i left it in a crate for several months and only just now tested it and it was reading 150/150/150/65psi on all 4 cylinders i paid $1200 for the powerhead and it was marked down from $1900 so kind of glad i didnt fork out the full $1900, while i was compression testing it i noticed the bottom cylinder reading 65psi had a rusty spark plug, The powerheads crate had a bogus Victorian Dealers nae on it to make out as if it were purchased like that

    nothing i can do now tho after all these months
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    If the reference to a bogus dealers name relates to the Marine Power label shown in the first picture, I suspect that it relates to Marine Power International who used to be situated at the Dandenong address shown on the label. I'm not sure whether they were the importers/distributors for Mercury at some time, but there is publicly accessible information on the web that they applied for and were given permission to offer free extended warranties for Mercury and Mariner outboards that has been routinely serviced through a network of more than 300 Mercury/Mariner agents around Australia, but deny the extended warranty to those who did not have the service carried out by those agents. This is dated November 2007, and tends to suggest that they were the importers/distributors at that time, as no one in there right mind would make such a free offer and establish such a network unless they stood to profit from it somehow, in this case most likely by importing and distributing the outboards at a profit, and using the extended warranty to enhance their client confidence in the product, and their profit from sales.

    I therefore suggest that the label on the crate is not bogus, but is a genuine one relating to the period when the provided this service. I don't dispute that the powerhead you purchased may be defective, but it may have been acquired at a liquidation sale or similar, shipped to Darwin and left sitting in the crate for a number of years in a waterside warehouse with high humidity. Virtually any multi cylinder engine will have at least one valve opened when the engine is at rest, and in a humid or wet environment, this can form rust to for in the cylinder with the open cylinder and destroy the compression of that cylinder. If very mild the engine can probably be reclaimed with an overhaul, but if pitting is bad, the cylinder may be too far gone for this.

    In this case, I suspect that the issue has arisen because the seller failed to fully check the motor prior to selling, and you failed to check it upon receipt, so have reduced ability to seek recourse from the seller. But I strongly suspect that a motor or powerhead was legitimately shipped back to Marine Power at some stage in their business life in the crate your unit arrived in, or alternatively was due to be shipped back to them but was either not sent or diverted in the course of delivery and never reached them.
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    To add to what Mal was saying, it could be that the seller received a new power head from Marine Power, and then sold you the dud one, shipping it to you in the packing they received.
    Nothing to do with Marine Power whatsoever! A bit like me sending you a box with details of chocolates on the packaging, doesn't really mean that there's chocolates inside. Nowdays you CAN'T trust anyone.
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  4. #19
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    When the crate arrived i tried to find information relating to that VIC business but could not find anything, i think the seller did pull the switcharoo because the intake ports were taped up and the exhaust was covered by a 10mm plate of steel the powerhead was bolted down to, i was a bit bummed when i checked the compression but that's ok these engines are hard to find parts for i have only found them in Au and Canada they were sold in the usa as supercharged models tho hard to find parts for over there

    when i was buying it i was looking at $850 for the crankcases alone so getting a whole powerhead for $1200 delivered i was over the moon just a little let down as i thought it was ready to rock

    just wish people were honest as i would have probably still bought it

    if it were rusty internally from salt air it would have had 2 cylinders rusted as its 2 up 2 down 4 cylinder so one of the other intakes would have been open too but ahh well the seller had a something like 18 year old ebay account i left good feedback but wrote "untested as of yet"

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    As MALB basically said Marine Power is in fact Marine Power International. The label appears legit however there is a typo on it the address was 132-140 Frankston Road not 132-144 Frankston Road, and that address is there old one as they are at 41-71 Bessemer Drive in Dandenong now. I'm the same as MALB in not being sure how Mercury Marine and Marine Power International fit together in Australia. It could well be Marine Power International is the importer, wholesaler and warrantee's of Mercury Engine in Australia. My old boss was a mercury dealer and a lot of the boxes of parts etc had Marine Power on them.
    With 65PSI compression there is certainly a problem with that engine. Just a tip for you all too whenever your doing a compression test on a four stroke outboard is to open the throttle via the throttle only lever otherwise you will actually get a lower compression reading than what is actually the true compression pressure. A leak down test on a four stroke outboard is also a good idea. Sorry to hear that you got ripped off.
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  6. #21
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    Yeah the powerhead is bare sitting on a pallet so has no intake (throttle) connected just wish i knew this 8 months ago as i would have torn it apart ASAP instead of letting it sit and rust

    I have a leak down kit but i dont think i will bother i will just tear it down and send the head off to be crack tested and shaved, valves, guides and seats i will check when i pull it apart

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    There a 2 types of metal spray process:
    A 'hot' process where the metal powder fuses to the base metal. We do that process at work to repair castings and hardface some repaired components. It takes some skill to successfully get full fusion of the powder to the base metal.

    A 'Cold' Process where the molten metal powder sticks o the base metal. The advantage of this process is less heat is put into the part that is being repaired. I have the gear to do this at home but haven't tried it yet as the powder is pretty expensive.

    The advantage of metal spray over welding is it allows parts made of high alloy steels that would be difficult to weld without effecting their properties to be repaired.
    example if you tig welded your crankshaft it would distort and the weld zone on the crankshaft would probably harden, and cause the crankshaft to break or crack.

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