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11th May 2011, 12:22 PM #1
Having trouble unscrewing chuck from lathe
I am in the process of pulling apart my lathe, so I can clean it up to paint it.
Its a Forbes lathe made in 1975.
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Getting the chuck and faceplate off is giving me some problems at present.
The previous owner damaged the backgears while he had it ( maybe trying to do the same thing )
I have tried to unscrew it by locking the spindle by engaging the backgears, putting the chuck key in and tapping with a hammer, all I did was break another tooth off the backgear.
I tried with a large pair of stillsons on the outside end of the spindle to stop it turning, tried tapping the chuckkey, also tried large shifter on one of the chuck jaws.
No good its too tight.
Does anyone have any other ideas how to unscrew it, without doing any more damage ?
I have thought about unbolting the chuck from the faceplate, and heating the faceplate.
I'll be replacing the seals on the spindle anyway, and not too much heat should transfer into the spindle if it goes to plan.
But I'll leave that as a last resort for now.
If someone has some ideas, I'm all ears .
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11th May 2011, 12:30 PM #2Senior Member
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Maybe unbolt the chuck from the backplate so you can spray some good spray lube into the end of the spindle/backplate. You sure don't want to break off anymore teeth. Then make some kind of holder to lock the spindle and try to turn it off. Good luck and keep us posted...Bob
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11th May 2011, 12:32 PM #3Distracted Member
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Hi. I have a similar lathe. I hold a block of wood on the rear way under a jaw and bump the reverse button (don't let it latch on). You can apply more force by starting with the jaw further from the block and/or using a higher speed. It's the momentum of the chuck that does the trick rather than the motor. You have to be careful that the block is square or it can spit out.
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11th May 2011, 12:39 PM #4
Thanks for the idea Bryan.
Trouble is my lathe doesnt have reverse. The switch starts the lathe in forward direction in both positions.
The motor was replaced at some stage, the previous owner said when the electrician wired it up, he said it would only run one way .
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11th May 2011, 12:40 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Ironwood,
You could try a can of freezing spray on the inside of the spindle.
Bryan,
The momentum of the chuck would be working against you wouldnt it?
Stuart
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11th May 2011, 12:43 PM #6Dave J Guest
One you could try is to take out all but one jaw, place a piece of board on the ways. Then cut a block of wood (4x2) to sit on the board and come to centre height. Place the block over towards the back level with the outside of the chuck then turn the chuck so the jaw so it is at the lowest point facing the ways and with the lathe in low gear turn on the lathe in reverse.
This sudden stop should crack the thread undone, just be prepared to catch the chuck.
Dave
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11th May 2011, 12:45 PM #7Dave J Guest
Everyone posted while I was typing.
Dave
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11th May 2011, 12:48 PM #8Distracted Member
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I just meant that you don't drive the chuck into the block under power. I suppose it's actually the momentum of the spindle etc that does the unscrewing. If you want to be pedantic.
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11th May 2011, 12:51 PM #9
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11th May 2011, 12:53 PM #10Dave J Guest
If it's as stuck as he said and broke another tooth off the back gear trying, I would say it has been on for years and is going to need a bit of speed and a sudden stop to get it off.
I had a chuck like this on my old Hercus when I got it.
Dave
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11th May 2011, 12:55 PM #11
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11th May 2011, 12:59 PM #12Dave J Guest
Is the motor reversible? Can you swap the wires over to get it to run in reverse?
Dave
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11th May 2011, 01:05 PM #13
Hi Dave, I think it has been on there for the life of the lathe, as he didnt have a 4 jaw chuck, or anything else to go onto the spindle, which makes me think its only ever been used with this 3 jaw chuck fitted.
One more tooth off the backgear is no great loss, as its missing 3 others from a previous misshap. Which makes it useless for doing any turning with it engaged anyhow. But I dont want to damage it any more.
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11th May 2011, 01:07 PM #14
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11th May 2011, 01:20 PM #15Distracted Member
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How about removing the motor belt and turning the countershaft backwards by hand? To allow more of a turn (extra momentum) you could remove all the jaws but one, like Dave said. A helper would um, help.
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