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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk1_Oz View Post
    I don't know what brand face mills they are. Took the insets to GeneralTools and they couldn't help unless I could show all the numbers and id off the mills.
    Mk1 you should be able to work out the correct inserts from here Insert Designation Chart - provides ANSI and ISO designation code definitions for carbide insert shapes, relief angles, tolerances, chipbreaker codes, hole types, size values, thickness values, radius values, wiper lead angle, wiper clearance angle,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk1_Oz View Post
    I don't know what brand face mills they are. Took the insets to GeneralTools and they couldn't help unless I could show all the numbers and id off the mills.
    That's just lazy of them. Can you post some pics of the cutter and inserts? There's probably 3 or 4 insert types used by pretty much all the basic face mills, you can confirm with a ruler and protractor for size and clearance angles but I reckon it should be fairly easy to narrow it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elanjacobs View Post
    That's just lazy of them. Can you post some pics of the cutter and inserts? There's probably 3 or 4 insert types used by pretty much all the basic face mills, you can confirm with a ruler and protractor for size and clearance angles but I reckon it should be fairly easy to narrow it down.
    It depends if its brand name or generic, for at least 10 years all the brand name (Korloy, Sumitomo, Iscar, ect) milling tools have used propriety inserts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk1_Oz View Post
    I don't know what brand face mills they are. Took the insets to GeneralTools and they couldn't help unless I could show all the numbers and id off the mills.
    Post some pics i might be able to ID it, i might even have inserts to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapatap View Post
    It depends if its brand name or generic, for at least 10 years all the brand name (Korloy, Sumitomo, Iscar, ect) milling tools have used propriety inserts.
    Sorry, but that's simply not accurate.

    While the big brands do have their own fancy stuff, they all still have plenty of milling tools that use bog standard inserts (APKT, SEMT, SOMT, SNMU, etc)
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    The large diameter (~200mm?) is a FAGERSTA hR 268-8160

    The smaller (~100mm) is a SANDVIK COROMONT

    The grey insert is for the smaller cutter and is approx. 13 x 3mm square with a substantial rake (relief?).

    The gold insert is 13 x ~4.5mm with zero angle.



    Big2.jpgBig1.jpgBig3.jpgInsert1.jpgBig4.jpgSmall1.jpgInsert2.jpgSmall2.jpgSmall3.jpgSmall4.jpg

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    I dont think id run either of those tools in my mill with the dinged up tapers. Might need new shanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk1_Oz View Post
    The large diameter (~200mm?) is a FAGERSTA hR 268-8160

    The smaller (~100mm) is a SANDVIK COROMONT

    The grey insert is for the smaller cutter and is approx. 13 x 3mm square with a substantial rake (relief?).

    The gold insert is 13 x ~4.5mm with zero angle.



    Big2.jpgBig1.jpgBig3.jpgInsert1.jpgBig4.jpgSmall1.jpgInsert2.jpgSmall2.jpgSmall3.jpgSmall4.jpg

    I'm pretty sure the sandvik takes SPKN1203 inserts, pretty sure i have a bigger version down the shed, will check on the weekend.
    Not sure about the other one, but they will be ISO inserts as both face mills are 80/90's vintage. I have some old catalogs on the weekend, unless someone else works it out first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk1_Oz View Post
    The grey insert is for the smaller cutter and is approx. 13 x 3mm square with a substantial rake (relief?).

    The gold insert is 13 x ~4.5mm with zero angle.
    From the insert decoder, I'd say the gold one looks like SNMA 1204xx (xx being the corner radius), the grey one possibly SEKR 1203 AFTN

    EDIT: I think snapatap might be right with SPKN instead of SEKR, I didn't notice the wiper land
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    Thanks for the info lads.

    Cask- i have only run the small one as that came already in the mill when I bought it. I plan to stone and clean them both.

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    That going to an Engineering Suppliers closing sale can empty a bank account.

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    Default Bandsaw running rough

    Who would have thought a V belt could make such a difference.
    My Hare Forbes BS-4A band saw has worked well for years, until the last month. The motor started jumping about like a demented frog while the machine was cutting. I discovered the driven pulley was loose on its shaft but fixing that did not help. I tried different tension on the belt. Better if the belt was really loose. There was a little "dust" inside the drive belt cover but the belt was intact with no knobs, bumps or flapping bits and looked OK.

    In the end I thought a new belt was the go.... but it was not an "A" "B" or "C" section and the numbers on the existing belt were not converted into anything useful by "Mr Search Engine". The Hare Forbes manual helpfully described part 112 as "belt".



    Finally I recall some wise words from these forums that the Grizzly manuals were worth a read and the one for the same machine (G0622 4"x6" metal cutting bandsaw) said the belt was a 3L220 (a fractional horse-power belt, 3/8" wide, 22 inches long -- new series to me but measurements matched the one I had) so a new brand-name one was ordered.

    The saw now runs as smooth as silk.
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    David, where did you buy the belt?
    Regards,
    Tom

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    no link apart from being a customer https://www.aimsindustrial.com.au/ga...belt-8400-1220
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    Took some more scrap brass and copper to the scrap metal dealer yesterday.
    Copper is paying $9.05 /kg
    Copper insulated cable is $3:15 /kg.

    When I got home I stripped some pieces of kettle cord and flat 3 core and found that by the time you strip the insulation off a copper cable you are typically left with about 42% of the original weight of cable as copper.

    This means if you strip the copper out of the cable you will get about $3.80 per original kg of cable (insulation plus copper) so you are getting about 65c/kg for stripping the cable - hardly worth it for domestic cable. For stuff like welding cables it will probably be well worth doing.

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