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30th Jun 2020, 06:58 PM #16Member: Blue and white apron brigade
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FWIW I have been in contact with Steve and offered to run my meters over the motor but he has already moved on to using another motor.
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30th Jun 2020, 07:37 PM #17Most Valued Member
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3rd Jul 2020, 08:26 AM #18
This is what I should have posted.
https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/publi...ical-work-done
Agree or disagree with it, it is the law.
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3rd Jul 2020, 10:07 AM #19Most Valued Member
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royce cross has all the info on their web site..look up air movement motors and follow through to 3 speed motors etc. wiring colour code will be same for all, except that capacitor rating change
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3rd Jul 2020, 08:21 PM #21Diamond Member
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My understanding is that non-fixed electrical work is allowed to be performed by an unlicensed person, provided they are "competent". Non-fixed meaning anything with a plug. I believe Qld is the only state that doesn't allow this. As for competent, I expect the only person you'd need to prove that to is a coroner.
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4th Jul 2020, 12:44 PM #24Most Valued Member
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OK, but what is the definition of competent for the purposes of the Act/Regs?
I'll take your word for that. However, even if it's true, my understanding is you can't repair your own appliances in VIC. So you still can't do your own 240V caravan wiring.Chris
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4th Jul 2020, 01:07 PM #25Most Valued Member
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After a little bit of Googling the only reference I can find to "competent person" with respect to electrical wiring relates to Test & Tag personnel.
I say you can't legally repair electrical appliances unless you are licensed.
I would LOVE to be wrong.Chris
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4th Jul 2020, 05:09 PM #26Diamond Member
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This is just for NSW, but it defines electrical work, then an electrical installation, and what that does not include.
Under the not included is:
any electrical article connected to, and extending or situated beyond, any electrical outlet socket
https://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/t...ons/electrical
I believe most appliance repair people are not licensed (although even less sure what happens in Qld), which makes sense, as the skills required to repair a welder are completely different to installing a Tastic.
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5th Jul 2020, 04:53 PM #28Most Valued Member
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Such repartee.
I believe we still don't have a definitive answer on whether a non-licensed person can legally fit a plug to an appliance (in this case a motor). Clearly the requirements vary by State. Even if a particular state doesn't require a license (i.e. NSW), there seems to be a requirement for the person to be competent. And I can't find a definition of competent for the purposes of performing one's own appliance repair.
Anyone found one?Chris
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5th Jul 2020, 08:23 PM #29
Hi Guys,
My concern over this was simply from a safety point of view !
You cannot fit five wires into a three pin plug safely. You have to have some method of connecting all five wires in such a way that it is safe to handle.
The suggestion I made to use an insulating box where all five wires could be safely terminated and the desired three wires brought out to a plug was one way of doing it !
A competent person is one that has an understanding of and about what they are doing ! This implies that they are knowledgeable. The OP obviously didn't understand, which is why he asked here and then subsequently decided not to continue with the idea.
JMTPW.Best Regards:
Baron J.
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