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    Default Finally found a holy one

    Now for the restoration...or bin

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    Does any know if they cast iron or cast steel?

    This will be a longterm project....need to drum up the nerve to fix or stuff it....lol

    How can someone do so much damage...the dark hole on fixed jaw is nearly 25mm deep while two others on the bottom go through to the bottom...they obviously didnt have a brain!!!

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    Hi mate,

    I got the same vice. I suspect they are cast iron.

    Simon

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    Wow, someone really molested that one.
    Gold, the colour of choice for the discerning person.

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    Hi Guys,

    I don't think I've seen a vise that nasty, ever
    Best Regards:
    Baron J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronJ View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I don't think I've seen a vise that nasty, ever
    Might be worse should i stuff up the resto...lol

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    Must have been a close cousin to the one who did this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bts View Post
    Must have been a close cousin to the one who did this.

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    I had a waldown table werse than that. no joke.

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    Wow, that is a few steps beyond a "smile of shame". I suspect that someone has made a habit of engaging the automatic down-feed while they go and answer the phone, apparently never learning from the first mistake.

    Okay, I'll be the one to ask... How would one go about restoring such a tool? Tap and dowel the holes? Fill the holes with braze or weld? Stock up on JB weld and fill the holes with epoxy? Obviously, some choices will be governed by the base material, but it would be interesting to see how others would go about bringing it back to life.

    I suppose a heap of bronzed circles could be covered by paint or be a feature of the restored item hinting at it's earlier hard life. A work of art perhaps.

    Simon

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    Hi Aaron,

    Quote Originally Posted by azzrock View Post
    I had a waldown table werse than that. no joke.
    I think I remember you posting a picture of it !

    Heathens I tell ya, heathens !
    Best Regards:
    Baron J.

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    G'day Richard,
    The one I fixed up for Dale was definitely grey CI.
    Yours looks like a good candidate for a cut an shut on the rails while I'd drill and plug the holes in the jaws. Some of the plugs will have to overlap but that shouldn't be a problem, just plug the big ones first and use a slot drill for subsequent holes so it doesn't wander like a drill will. Good luck mate.
    Cheers,
    Greg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XJ9OX View Post
    ... How would one go about restoring such a tool? Tap and dowel the holes? Fill the holes with braze or weld? Stock up on JB weld and fill the holes with epoxy?
    Welding or brazing the CI is likely to distort it, so probably not the best idea. Anorak Bob has done wonders with plugs of CI into cleaned up holes.

    The problem with Eskimo's vice is that some holes are cosmetic (like those on the tops of the jaws) but some are in a 'structural' part of the vice (like those on the rails). While plugging will fill those holes, they will not restore the strength to the part. Even cutting those parts out and replacing with an untouched strip of CI will not fully regain the part strength.

    When I see parts like that I'm tempted to make up a pattern and just cast a new one...

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonl View Post
    Hi mate,

    I got the same vice. I suspect they are cast iron.

    Simon

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    same vise...does yours have the same holes?...bet not hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post

    While plugging will fill those holes, they will not restore the strength to the part. Even cutting those parts out and replacing with an untouched strip of CI will not fully regain the part strength.

    Michael
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    yeah that is what I was thinking too Michael...the rails are quite bad, so I have decided I am going to TRY and weld with some rods a mate has given me..supposed to be for cast iron...he owned a welding business before he retired so I guess he has given me the right stuff...

    After all I do need the welding experience and no big loss if it doesnt work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronJ View Post
    Hi Aaron,



    I think I remember you posting a picture of it !

    Heathens I tell ya, heathens !
    joe from bendigo fixed that drill up for his son. He did a great job of it.

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    Hi Eskimo,

    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
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    yeah that is what I was thinking too Michael...the rails are quite bad, so I have decided I am going to TRY and weld with some rods a mate has given me..supposed to be for cast iron...he owned a welding business before he retired so I guess he has given me the right stuff...

    After all I do need the welding experience and no big loss if it doesnt work.
    Its a very long time since I did any cast iron welding ! I would make sure that you preheated it well, even if you are going to arc weld it.

    Having said that, I was taught furnace welding of cast iron, mending cracks in marine engine blocks. Hot heavy work for a 15 year old, my first job ! I got a City & Guilds certificate to prove it. The old guy that was teaching me was a real stickler for doing things right.
    Best Regards:
    Baron J.

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