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    Default Does anyone here read Russian?

    Hi all,
    I just mamanged to get hold of a Russian made Merkator comparator. It has a manual with it in Russian. Obviously using one isn't rocket science, but I'm curious what the manual actually says....
    My next step would be to scan it and try character recognition - and then let Google, Babel or Microsoft have a go at it. But since it's likely to full of technical terms, I don't hold much hope that it will be too accurate a translation. Someone with engineering interest or background would do a much more sensible translation I suspect.
    So, does anyone here read Russian?
    Cheers, Joe
    retired - less energy, more time to contemplate projects and more shed time....

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    Don't know if you are a member of the Model Engine Maker forum (Model Engine Maker - Index) but one of the Mods over there called Maryak has a Russian wife. He's a good bloke based in Adelaide - he may be able to help.

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    Hi Joe
    I know a young man in Sydney who went to school in Australia and University in Russia.
    Unfortunately he's an athlete who lives on the smell of an oily rag, so if I was to put you in touch you might have to be be prepared to pay something for the translation.

    Sorry, but it wouldn't be fair to him to suggest that he might do a translation for free.
    regards from Canmore

    ian

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    You know the rules Joe, pictures or it never happened..
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    Joe I have two friends who could possible one a Mech engineer who grew up and did his time here then spent 10 yrs in Russia married and has moved back here. Other is Mal from Boutique Timbers his wife who also is an engineer grew up and worked in Chec using the Russian machines.

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    OK. Thank you for all your hints and suggestions!
    Here are some photos, including the manual.
    As received. It came in a small wooden box for it with completely crumbled rubber foam and all glued joints separated. I've sort of fixed the box, but not cut any new foam yet.
    IMAG2771.jpg
    While the probe moved freely, the almost invisible pointer only turned a few degrees
    So I opened it up (reluctantly) and found some kind of microscopic web and some kind of dead tiny mite in there. When I VERY carefully cleaned the web off, the pointer moved across the entire dial again - phew.
    I also found the crystal held in with a roughly cut cardboard ring. I haven;t figured out yet if there is a missing circlip or just an O-ring meant to hold it. I might try an O-ring first.
    IMAG2772.jpg
    The internal support construction is extremely rough inside, but it seems to work OK.
    The design holds the twisted brass strip in tension. When you move the probe in and out, it releases the tension and the rest of the travel is completely free from the pointer mechanism until it hits a stop. I think that makes it pretty robust.
    Total scale deflection is 50 microns with 0.5 microns per division.
    I'm planning to build a planicator to mount it on for checking local flatness on precision surfaces - or measure the thickness of hairs

    I've scanned and attached the little manual as a PDF file.
    Wheelinound, if you could forward it to one of the friends you mentioned, for a translation, that would be much appreciated.
    I happen to have a distant acquaintance in Japan who I think speaks Russian. If your friends aren't interested or able, I'll try him next, then pick up your suggestions, Ian and Gavin.
    Attached Files Attached Files
    Cheers, Joe
    retired - less energy, more time to contemplate projects and more shed time....

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    The instrument is a Микрокатор 1ИПМ (Mikrokator 1IPM)

    The manual seems more to be a standard, what the Russians call the instruments "Passport". This document GOST 14712-79 appears to be superseded by GOST 28798-90. Go to this page http://www.normacs.ru/Doclist/doc/SUT.html and then right click and "translate to english" using the Chrome web browser.

    There is one for sale here: Микатор 1ИПМ ГОСТ 14712_79: 300 грн. - Оборудование Киев на Olx
    Selling mikator 1IPM
    GOST 14712_79
    range of 50 microns new.


    Mentioned on chipmakers.ru - Микрокатор 1ИПМ - Металлический форум and Биение шпинделя - какой минимум достижим? - Металлический форум

    This may also be of help:
    МІКОТЕХ Україна



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    AArgh, I see the russian links appear as weird characters, you should still be able to click on them.

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    Something tells me from somewhere that Gost in Russian is like DIN or JIS.
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    Steve, those "weird characters" I believe is Icelandic.

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