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    picked this up at an auction 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately the spindle and collars etc are missing and did not come with 5c collets. Had something else which I believe are only sleeves. Intention was to make a spindle or see if I can buy parts....waiting on reply for that.
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    then last week was googling and found this up for auction.
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    description said some othe rtooling and contents of mobile cupboard...got it home and found all the other darex stuff
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    from what I observe it looks like i have duplicate accessories ...there are two of those extra smaller spindle type adaptors, at least three stylus's as well as duplaicate othe adaptors all yet to be accurately identified.

    also in the cupboard was what I can only describe as the turn handles for quick acting type wood clamps...some have nylon type anvils while some have steel...will sort all this out later...I wont want them all.

    first things first ...does this thing actually work

    well here is a pic of a bit of steel that i milled after i sharpened a real bad 3/4 4 flute end mill that my mate gave me. Now the wheel does need dressing as the mill certainly didnt cut flat....but none the less it did cut better left side of pic than the cuts shown on the right which was before I sharpened???
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    them I picked up this thing...i have no idea why I bid other than to say it seemed real cheap at the time
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    how and where am i going to hide this??????

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    That incline press is almost identical to mine.
    From what I see yours has no safety guards to prevent losing a finger when you hit the go pedal.
    And same as you I only have one coz it was too cheap not too.
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    Wow nice purchase.

    If you havent worked it out yet.
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    Thats a radius grinding attachement, for ball nose cutters.

    Stuart

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    That Darex is certainly a worthy acquisition Richard. I saw Greg Q's when I visited Melbourne a few months back and thought how neat the grinder was. Ideal for a shed tight on space.

    Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew_g View Post
    From what I see yours has no safety guards to prevent losing a finger when you hit the go pedal.
    I recall seeing a name on somewhere...was it mathews or am I confusing that with your name?

    there's a go pedal on these things???...
    not having safety guards must mean mine is an antique and is worth more than yours......

    gunna take a while to figure out how to sneak it in.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Wow nice purchase.

    If you havent worked it out yet.
    http://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...926_165433.jpg
    Thats a radius grinding attachement, for ball nose cutters.

    Stuart
    thanks Stuart
    does that mean i have two...cos there seems to be two of them...if so the other one (the darex with out spindle) can have one too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    That Darex is certainly a worthy acquisition Richard. I saw Greg Q's when I visited Melbourne a few months back and thought how neat the grinder was. Ideal for a shed tight on space.

    Well done.

    BT
    I was holding off getting Greg's as the one without the spindle was coming up for auction ...I was delaying making the committment to buying Greg's until I knew outcome of that auction. But in the meantime Greg ended up getting rid of it anyway, so I ended up being more determined getting the first one...which i did.

    then the complete one came up...now all I ahve to do is make/buy another spindle and sell one??

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    there's a go pedal on these things???...
    Well there should be.......... but I'm not sure ours has one
    I guess that could be a pedal across the front but it desnt really look like one.
    Need to see a picture of the other side but you're looking for how the part arrowed in the picture is moved to the left.
    Always hated these things, well the ones that were held on their brake alone. I didnt mind the ones that had a saftey feature that locked the crank on TDC unless the pedal was pressed. (though I never saw one that kicked over when it wasnt meant to........must be the wuss(?) in me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    does that mean i have two...
    By the look of it.

    I've looked into air spindles a little and one thing I've read. parts cost a fortune. Things may have changed of course but the figures I saw were along the lines of $2500 for a new machine, $1500 for parts to rebuild the air spindle. They are meant to be very tricky things to make(though that sounds line a challange to me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Well there should be.......... but I'm not sure ours has one
    I guess that could be a pedal across the front but it desnt really look like one.
    Need to see a picture of the other side but you're looking for how the part arrowed in the picture is moved to the left.
    Always hated these things, well the ones that were held on their brake alone. I didnt mind the ones that had a saftey feature that locked the crank on TDC unless the pedal was pressed. (though I never saw one that kicked over when it wasnt meant to........must be the wuss(?) in me)

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    By the look of it.

    I've looked into air spindles a little and one thing I've read. parts cost a fortune. Things may have changed of course but the figures I saw were along the lines of $2500 for a new machine, $1500 for parts to rebuild the air spindle. They are meant to be very tricky things to make(though that sounds line a challange to me)
    I will wait till it...the press, arrives home and have a closer look

    As for the spindle the inner bits are just steel..nothing fancy
    The actual spindle seems to be hard chromed on the outside...no signs of rust on the outer but there is some very very slight surface discolouration on the inside around where the collets go in...still very smooth after a brief wipe over with some bronze wool (same as steel wool but bronze). This is in contrast to their current ads as they say the spindle is stainless??

    Maybe this will be the go...do all the rough machining first and then take the actual spindle down to the hard-chromers and get them to chrome it and finish off to tolerances??
    The little indexing collar and inner tube cant be that hard to make
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    Well I havent made one yet, althought it is on the "things I'd like to have a go at one day" list.
    From what I have read, the spindle is a easy part. It only needs to be dead on parallel*and round of course*, sub 0.0001", with a wonderful surface finish. Then you need to make the bearings which of course also need to be dead parallel just a little bigger. I'm lead to believe there are all sorts of clever things going on "no its not just a ring with a few holes drilled in it"(they say).
    I dont recall finding much from someone that had actually made on or tried and failed. Maybe its not as bad as they make it sound.

    Sounds like fun.

    Has hard chroming got any cheaper. Last I had anything to do with it was 15 years ago and one piston/ram about 2" a foot or so long was going to cost something like $1200?

    Stuart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    I dont recall finding much from someone that had actually made on or tried and failed. Maybe its not as bad as they make it sound.
    There was a series of articles in Home Shop Machinist back in the late 80's or early 90's by Phil Duclos (I think) who apparently successfully made one. I gave away all my magazines years ago so am only going off memory about the author, but there definitely was a series on 'build your own' air spindle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Well I havent made one yet, althought it is on the "things I'd like to have a go at one day" list.
    From what I have read, the spindle is a easy part. It only needs to be dead on parallel*and round of course*, sub 0.0001", with a wonderful surface finish. Then you need to make the bearings which of course also need to be dead parallel just a little bigger. I'm lead to believe there are all sorts of clever things going on "no its not just a ring with a few holes drilled in it"(they say).
    I dont recall finding much from someone that had actually made on or tried and failed. Maybe its not as bad as they make it sound.

    Sounds like fun.

    Has hard chroming got any cheaper. Last I had anything to do with it was 15 years ago and one piston/ram about 2" a foot or so long was going to cost something like $1200?

    Stuart
    been awhile >20yrs, since I had anything hard chromed too ...but I didnt think it was that dear...if it is, It wont be happening

    I have some info on Philip Duclos "floating end mill sharpener" . doesnt seem that hard to make....for you guys at least

    edit...I have the info on his air spindle!!..its in pdf format

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    lol, seems you shouldnt believe everything you read on the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    been awhile >20yrs, since I had anything hard chromed too ...but I didnt think it was that dear...if it is, It wont be happening
    I know nothing about how its done but there was some story about having to make jigs for a one off that made it so costly. Now it was only the return cylinder for a guillotine but it was allegedly none standard(which would seem strange to me but who knows?)

    Another google and it would seem they dont need to be "that" close. max 0.0002" taper in the spindle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    been awhile >20yrs, since I had anything hard chromed too ...but I didnt think it was that dear...if it is, It wont be happening

    I have some info on Philip Duclos "floating end mill sharpener" . doesnt seem that hard to make....for you guys at least

    edit...I have the info on his air spindle!!..its in pdf format
    Wouldn't care to share a link would you?

    A good few purchases there for sure, well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo;


    them I picked up this thing...i have no idea why I bid other than to say it seemed real cheap at the time
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    how and where am i going to hide this??????



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