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  1. #16
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    Hi Angelique,

    Aluminium would be the way to go. You can have the material coated in many colours - even brass looking depending on the process you decide upon. I noticed you are from Sydney, so the link below may well be of use to you - they may even do the process free of charge if you do a performance for them .

    http://finishedproducts.com.au/?gcli...FRdLYQodDhDPyw

    Would the idea of having recesses in the tube help getting a better grip help you (and others)?.

    Gee 600 students at $800 it worth thinking off starting a small business to make them

    Are there any other items that need making for your line of enjoyment?.

    Cheers
    David

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    Hi metal head
    before you run off and get into the pole making biz, it might be worth adding measure and fit to to the cost,that can add a few hours,

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    Default Instructions

    Here is an instructable on how to make a portable stripper pole

    http://www.instructables.com/id/E5CRUV435XES9J6ALF/

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    Aangelique

    If this was only for practice at home why not use gavanised water pipe. You wont get any thing grippier that Gal pipe. It would have much more strength than brass or aluminium.
    Regards Bazza

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    The views expressed by the poster are general in nature and any advice should be taken in this vein. The poster accepts no responsibility if this advice is used. When undertaking any work personal professional advice should be sought from suitably qualified persons in the field of work being undertaken.


  5. #20
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    Anodised Aluminium tube - you can get it in Gold(brass), Electric Blue, Green, Red, Black and 'Clear'/silver that I know of.

    Just sit down with the Yellow Pages under 'Aluminium' - there are heaps of places that make Aluminium fittings for places like shops & bathrooms - an ally pole with 2 screw friction fittings is a very common shop fitting used to hold temporary displays like big advertising signs, also used by pro photographers to hold reflectors & blockers when doing shoots on location (but a photo supplier will ask big $$$). Some of these poles have an adjustment in the middle with a lock so they can be collapsed to carry in a car or van.

    They should be pretty strong as the consequences of someone grabbing one in a shop & having come down in a crowd of shoppers is a big damages bill for the shop.

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    You can pick up a Manfrotto extendable pole (Autopole) for $185.

    See http://www.new-media.com.au/Manfrotto-Auto-Pole-pr-1919.html for details of what it looks like.

    Extendible, lever operated cam lock to jamb it against the ceiling, and pretty sturdy (I'd be worried about pushing it through a plasterboard ceiling if it wasnt located under a support)

    Has soft pads at each end to reduce damage when clamped up.



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    I don't think most of the people who have replied here realise the amount of stress these poles have to handle, anodising would quickly wear off, powder coating my be an option, if aluminium was used it would need to structural i.e. the same as is used for scafolding

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    If you want to want to increase the surface friction of the stainlesss steel version you already have...

    Sandpaper - give the pole a good rubbing with 100 or even 80 grit wet and dry. Rub along the length so the scratches left by the sandpaper are at 90 degrees to your expected path around the pole. You should be able to make it rough enough to remove skin without too much effort - stainless is pretty soft.

    Lacquer - Brass will tarnish, especially from sweat, so if the brass poles remain brass coloured, they are probably coated in clear lacquer. Wattyl (I think) make a spray can of clear lacquer just for the purpose of coating brass - you could try this on stainless to see if it improves your grip.

    (to be honest I couldn't imagine your average errr...professional pole dancing emporium using anything more expensive than aluminium scaffold tube...I mean, dirty hands are the last things that will be looked at....)

    However, this does sound like a complex situation; are any other forumites willing to devote themselves to a few nights of investigation of poles for pole dancers by studying the ones in use in commercial premises? I am willing to undertake further study of the matter as it will allow me to also undertake investigation of the safety apparel worn by professional pole dancers. Any venue suggestions?

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    Try mick moyles engineers supplies or hare & forbes . Both places have helped me but not with pole dancing!

    www.moyles.com.au www.hare&forbes.com.au

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    Default What welder to get.

    Hi,
    I am in the same boat, looking to buy a welder. The advise given to me by full time welders at the hospital, was to go with a stick welder and make sure it has a heavy copper winding. I was told that there is nothing wrong with aluminium as a conducter of electricity in a welder but at some point it needs to join on to copper and that is where it will fail. There are a number of quality Australian made welders that will run on a 15 amp plug and are rated to 160 amp with a reasonable duty cycle.That is the way I am going to go. As I find out more specifics about brands etc I will pass it along.
    I asked about the light weight electronic welders to around 110 to 140 amps and was told to stay away from them. The cost of a half decent one was several times the cost of a good stick welder and that the one they used as a stick welder some times was actually a high cost TIG welder that will also run as a stick welder, and the low cost ones were not any good.
    So much to buy and so little money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aangelique1611 View Post
    Here's probaably a non standard post for this web site but anyhow, thought I would ask coz thought it might be something I can do ... I take pole dancing classes to keep fit and the studio currently sells the poles for $880 which I just cant do right now but thought i might improvise with some DIY ... here are the specifications if someone can let me know if this is "do-able" but more imporatantly, how easily i can stuff it up and end up breaking my neck by falling on my head ... can I buy brass pole from bunnings at 38mm wide? if so, is it an expensive material? that being said ... suspending it between ceiling and floor in a sturdy fashion ... preferrably with as little damage / holes to the ceiling and floor as possible ... or even just going from the floor and not hitting the ceilingif this could be done ....

    Thoughts anyone?

    ps. if someone reckons they would be good at this you should make some up and get onto ebay! big market for this right now as these classes are VERY popular ... i think my studio has over 600 students attending each week... and plenty of girls coughing up the coin for the poles etc
    So how's it going Angelique....have you bought one...or did you buy a secondhand one from the fire station?.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to hear your progress.

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    Default An original idea... (or solution)

    Hi, as I understand it, you basically want to change over to brass, because brass for reasons unknown to me, is gives good grip under sweaty hands, and SS doesn't.

    One idea is to use a coarseish grained carborundum abrasive cloth backed strip, about 25mm wide (one inch) in a length of about 700mm (from a roll) that actually cuts into the metal surface, and to "polish" the pole as one does with a cloth and shoes.

    Then work the pole up and down it's length, periodically rotating the pole as you go.

    This should give a properly grippy surface.

    The other idea.. is if you really must have a BRASS pole, well one already has a functional POLE, one can get the pole electroplated with brass.

    If you seriously intend to stick with the pole (yay) , lol, then get a good thick coating upon it, like the sort of decently coated brass plated door knobs etc., and not a very thin film, like what the manufacturers put on ornamental thin steel "garbage" that appears to be brass.

    Best of Luck.

    2shane.

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    Default Brass Pole

    I have purchased aluminium from Smart Aluminium in Brisbane and noticed they also deal in brass including Brass Tubing. They have very good prices in my opinion. You might try their offices in Sydney. Their addresses below are from white pages:

    Smart Aluminium

    Brookvale
    4c/9-13 Winbourne Rd 2100
    (02) 9905 5757 Fax(02) 9905 8012

    Caringbah
    1/ 3 Resolution Drv 2229
    (02) 9526 7311 Fax(02) 9526 7344

    Revesby
    3/ 25 Violet St 2212
    (02) 9773 8900Fax (02) 9773 8090

    Wetherill Park
    27 Elizabeth St 2164
    (02) 9725 3351 Fax(02) 9725 5328

    Hope this helps price wise

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    is it not possible to get a brass tube and put it around a steel or aluminium tube? obviously you would have to get ones with a similar inner diameter to outer diameter. you could probably fill the gap if nesesary with something. some bulky tape or somethign similar. maybe even sand. wether thats a good option really depends on the difference in price between the strong enough brass tube compared to the thinner one just for wear and grip properties.

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    Hi All,
    Had to put my 2 Bobs worth in.......
    I have in the past looked at making dancing poles commercialy .From the research I did and protos we made I can tell you the following : Brass is really the only way to go, liability insurance for such a product is cost prohibitive and finding bearings that will support a radial load such as this cost more than a new Commodore.
    $880.00............Buy one ,Buy two if you like ,but beleive me that is CHEAP.
    Regards,
    Dvae

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