Thread: Ladder Brackets

Originally Posted by riverbuilder

The main problem i can see with those is you’re relying on the integrity of the guttering and the fascia it’s mounted to. These are not always sound. I’ve seen plenty of guttering that’s totally rusted on the top side yet looks fine on the underside.

For sure - but given its side load that's on the device and not vertical I'd say its still a large improvement over having nothing, and likely at least as effective than having a second person holding the ladder (particularly if the ladder is more than a couple of metres long.

Steve

Hi all,

I'm a bit late into this thread sorry.

At work if we need to get on a roof, we throw a cordage line from one side of the house/building to the other. We then anchor each end to a suitable anchor point near/on the ground and rachett it tight.

We then put the ladder up next to the line and, wearing a harness we attach to the line with an ascender device and a short piece of personal line.

If we need to deviate further away from the main line then our personal line will alow, we install an extra anchor point on the roof. We stay attached to the main line but run our attached personal line through the new anchor point and let out more line from our kit.

It's reasonably new technique so have not used it in anger but it's safer than our previous system which was:

DONT BLOODY FALL!

Simon

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I bought one of the Lock Jaws today. It looks well made. If it passes my rigorous testing regime (cough) I'll get a second one.

Originally Posted by riverbuilder

The main problem i can see with those is you’re relying on the integrity of the guttering and the fascia it’s mounted to. These are not always sound. I’ve seen plenty of guttering that’s totally rusted on the top side yet looks fine on the underside.

I think they are aimed at the homeowner market. I reckon most people would have a good idea about the integrity of their gutters. Or people who empty their own gutters at least. The instructions include the warning "Do not use this product if the structural integrity of the gutter is in doubt".

Hi Guys,

Most guttering, at least for the past 65-70 years is plastic ! A lot of the post WW1 guttering was made of wood !
Prior to that it would have been made of the new fangled cast iron. Some of the buildings I've seen have had aluminium ones fitted.

I once watched a machine in a van churning out some very long lengths of aluminium guttering for a commercial property. There was a roll of aluminium sheet about a metre in diameter at the far end and a forming tool near the doors. A very fast neat operation.

Originally Posted by BaronJ

Most guttering, at least for the past 65-70 years is plastic !

Not here John. It's almost always steel. Probably due to bushfire requirements in many areas.

Originally Posted by BaronJ

Hi Guys,

I once watched a machine in a van churning out some very long lengths of aluminium guttering for a commercial property. There was a roll of aluminium sheet about a metre in diameter at the far end and a forming tool near the doors. A very fast neat operation.

Only ever seen that operation once in my life. Much better that a short join in the middle of both front and back gutters, on the place I rent, which was poorly done and leaked from day one. Gutter guy was probably restricted to carrying a certain length, or this was what available at the time. BTW, it's square line guttering, which I think is the worst you can get. I prefer roundish bottom gutter with external clips as they tend to self clean better.

Hi Nev, Guys,

Yes the machine made aluminium guttering was a flat bottom with flat sloping sides and a curved rim, maybe 3/4" inch half round. I've also seen the extrusion presses making guttering by forcing plastic through a die into a long tank of water ! That goes at some speed as well.

Originally Posted by BaronJ

Hi Guys....I once watched a machine in a van churning out some very long lengths of aluminium guttering for a commercial property. There was a roll of aluminium sheet about a metre in diameter at the far end and a forming tool near the doors. A very fast neat operation.

Virtually all guttering is done like that here. High end houses might have copper gutters made for them but too costly for regular mortals. The only time you find vinyl or short lengths of metal are for do it yourselfers from the home centres. The cheap rolled stuff is often very light gauge that easily dents when a ladder is put against it. Upside is only needing to caulk the joints and downpipes locations.

Pete