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Thread: Kelham Island Museum !
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15th Oct 2021, 09:06 PM #16
More Hammers !
Hi Guys,
Continuing the theme of Hammers !
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This large steam driven hammer shown in use with the heating furnace behind the operator. Notice the flat cap and dress of the operator. Though this is not the biggest steam hammer I've seen. The one at Blists Hill Telford is more than double the size.
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This one is a rather nice cutlery press. Again driven by an electric motor running continuously driving the heavy flywheel. No trip on this machine, the hammer moves up and down all the time the machine is in use.
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Here is the bronze bell, now chrome plated, salvaged from the HMS Sheffield when she was scrapped. There is no indication of where the bell was made, but unlikely to have been in Sheffield.
All pictures taken courtesy of "Kelham Island Museum".Best Regards:
Baron J.
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16th Oct 2021, 01:22 AM #17
Lathes !
Hi Guys,
Some pictures of Lathes and other bits of machinery !
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A rather nice "Super Relm" 4" inch, flat belt driven lathe. Seen in the museums workshop display. There are also two nice shapers in here, unfortunately neither can be accessed in order to photograph them.
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A belt driven vertical mill circa 1925, and a belt driven hacksaw. Again early 1900's
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A couple of small toolmakers or watch makers lathes. The first picture is of a miniature capstan production lathe, probably about 2" inch centre height. The second I'm not entirely sure if this is a very small wood lathe or not, again only about 2" inch centre height. These were both in a separate toolmakers display.
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This is a picture of the line shaft driving the machinery in the workshop display. It makes a right racket !
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The plaque small writing says "As used in the Spitfire Aircraft". GKN is still in business today. GKN Ltd is a British multinational automotive and aerospace components business headquartered in Redditch, Worcestershire. It is a long-running business known for many decades as Guest, Keen and Nettlefolds. It can trace its origins back to 1759 and the birth of the Industrial Revolution.
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A Bramahs hydraulic press Dated 1795. The table is manually raised and the the hydraulics take over.
After 1894, this press was taken to the Ordnance Survey works in Leatherhead, Surrey. When the Ordnance Survey works were evacuated to Chessington in Surrey during the Second World War, the Bramah press went with them. The press remained at Chessington in working order until 1966, when it was donated to the muesum.
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One of the steel pouring ladles from the Iron Forge Master works stood on one of the bogies used to transport them.
All pictures taken courtesy of "Kelham Island Museum".Best Regards:
Baron J.
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16th Oct 2021, 12:01 PM #18
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16th Oct 2021, 05:12 PM #19Diamond Member
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16th Oct 2021, 07:08 PM #20
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16th Oct 2021, 08:12 PM #21
Buffing & Polishing !
Hi Guys,
The theme of today’s post is Buffing and Polishing !
Sheffield being the home of not just the tool industry but also of the very fine cutlery and tableware supplied both across the Commonwealth and worldwide, in both Silver and steel materials, buffing and polishing was an important step in the manufacture and production of these products. Whilst mainly a male dominated industry, in the early 1900's Women started to be employed, taking on some of the more tedious tasks !
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This picture is a view inside one of the grinding and polishing workshops ! Whilst nice and clean in this display, the workshop would have been a noisy and quite dirty place to work. Notice that there are no line shafts in here, they are all electric motors.
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This picture is a more realistic one of an actual Polishing bench with eight flat belt driven wheels of various types. The driving lineshaft being underneath the wheels. The one at the very far end is a simple mop, 12" inches in diameter and 2" inches wide. Ranging from narrow grinding wheels to thin leather ones.
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These two pictures are of the far end polishing mop, you can see how embedded the polishing material has become. The second picture is of a thin leather wheel. This would have been used to get into corners and small features. Note the hardwood flat belt pullies on the wheel spindles. Also the ends of the square steel shaft holding them and the wheel. There aren’t any ball bearings in there, a simple cone point on the ends, greased with lard and pressed into hardwood blocks clamped in iron brackets at each end, just using a wood wedge to tension the drive belt. There would have been several people working and using this machine at the same time.
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This is a picture of a woman in period dress polishing a jug. An electric motor mounted underneath the bench driving the buffing wheel using a modern "V" belt. I did notice that at some point the flat belt pulley had been machined to put a pair of "V"'s in it.
All pictures taken courtesy of "Kelham Island Museum".Best Regards:
Baron J.
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16th Oct 2021, 08:13 PM #22Mechanical Butcher
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At any time, most of the museum's collection is in storage and not directly available to view by the public.
That's something unfortunate about modern museums, that are curated half to death.
I read that the B&W No.2 cannot be insured for any sum, because it is priceless.
Not bad for a freebie.
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16th Oct 2021, 08:22 PM #23
Hi Jordan, Guys,
Whilst I tend to agree with your comments, I found that the curators of "Kelham Island" were extremely helpful and very accommodating, particularly with me taking pictures and the agreement that I would attribute the pictures to them.
So on that basis my thanks to "Kelham Island" Industrial Museum !Best Regards:
Baron J.
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16th Oct 2021, 08:59 PM #24Intermediate Member
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Interesting rolling mill engines thread on "Practical Machinist"
https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...ngines-113935/
A long discussion, including a photo of another Davy Bros three cylinder rolling mill engine of 16,000 HP !
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17th Oct 2021, 05:22 AM #25
Transport !
Hi Guys,
Warning lots of pictures !
The theme of this post is transport ! Cars, Motorcycles, and Steam Engine, along with a "Penny Farthing" for good measure.
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This first item pictured is of a Lister Diesel Autotruck. Very common at one time, used for transporting goods around the factory. It used a trailer with a similar hookup mechanism to a lorry and could pull several trailers at once carrying quite heavy loads. It has solid rubber covered wheels similar to a fork truck. The driver stood on a platform behind the engine and controlled the machine with a horizontal, "U" shaped bar used to steer the machine and had the throttle and brake levers mounted on it. The driving wheels were a pair of chain driven ones.
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Not a lot to say about this one since the adjacent plaque says it all.
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Another "Made in Sheffield" car.
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This motorcycle is a strange one ! It could be ridden and steered with the handlebars or your feet. See the large flap foot pedals on either side.
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This is a 1922 "Wilkin" motorcycle.
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Another curious car a "Rotardson" a two seater with wire wheels, held onto the splined axles with a single nut locked with a split pin.
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A stage coach used by VR.
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These three items, two steam engines and a motorcycle and side car, in storage waiting to be sorted out for display.
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Last but not least, the "Penny Farthing" !
All pictures taken courtesy of "Kelham Island Museum".Last edited by BaronJ; 17th Oct 2021 at 07:57 PM. Reason: Added Picture.
Best Regards:
Baron J.
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17th Oct 2021, 09:21 PM #26
Miscellaneous Pictures !
Hi Guys,
These are the last of the pictures taken at Kelham Island Industrial Museum !
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An interesting display of gears and drills, along with a long case clock and a watch spring. All made in Sheffield.
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A knife makers anvil used for hand forging knives. Its set in a very large stone block. From the wedges used to hold it in place, I assume that there would be other anvils that fit in there for other types of work.
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A display of files and riflers. The second picture is a "File" making machine. A file blank is placed in the long recess and a sharp chisel held at an angle is pressed into the blank, then the blank is moved a short distance and pressed into the blank again. This process is repeated until the file is finished. The amount that the chisel is pressed into the blank and the number of times per inch determines the cut of the chisel.
Not really viewable is a wooden replica of a different type of file making machine. Difficult to see properly, but it looks like it would be used for making round files, whilst the one in the foreground is for making flat files.
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This machine is used to test the hardness of steel.
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An impressive display of gold medals won and awarded to Sir Robert Hadfield.
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A display of micrometers of various types. All made in Sheffield.
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Three interesting machines waiting restoration in the stores. The item in the middle bottom of the second picture is a hand operated plaining machine. 12" long 6" inches wide with a 4.5" wide bed. Must have been hard work to use that !
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These are three sets of Edwardian time clocks recovered from now defunct factories. They were used to log the time a worker started and finished work.
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This is a "Vickers Metropolitan" rotary transformer ! Intended to turn AC into DC or DC into AC. Its not clear which way round.
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This is a rather interesting shop made "Piercing Saw" ! Note that the handle supporting the blade has been made by cutting a file in half and drilling it for the blade clamping screws. The frame is simply a length of 5/8" by 3/8" inch steel bar bent into a ring. You can see where its been repaired at some point.
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This unusual last picture is of a Victorian, workers toilet. Since its in an isolated part of the building near the polishing benches I assume that it would be for the female workers. Its a quite complicated flushing mechanism. Water comes in from the left hand side and the waste goes down into the floor.
All pictures taken courtesy of "Kelham Island Museum".
Thanks for all the comments and likes. I find these museums fascinating places to visit !Best Regards:
Baron J.
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28th Oct 2021, 07:18 PM #27New Member
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Crosley Gas Engine
Hi Baron J, I love your pictures from the Kelham Island Museum but especially the large Crosley Gas Engine. It's engine information picture said it was driven electrically, but I suppose that was before it's refurbishment.
I am wondering have you ever seen any large Robson (from Shipley) Oil Engines. I have two large Robsons. The large one is a CHY 105 BHP with a 17 inch dia piston and a 24 inch stroke, the other is a CHW 70 BHP 13 inch dia piston and a 22 inch stroke.
I have attached two pictures of the larger one as it was and where it was when it powered a large centrifugal pump for flood irrigation and the other is of starting to remove the crankshaft for transportation.
From memory the flywheel, crankshaft and auxillary pulleys showed 6.1 tonnes on the mobile cranes scale.
Jim
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28th Oct 2021, 07:31 PM #28New Member
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Crosley Gas Engine
Hi Baron J, I love your pictures from the Kelham Island Museum but especially the large Crosley Gas Engine. It's engine information picture said it was driven electrically, but I suppose that was before it's refurbishment.
I am wondering have you ever seen any large Robson (from Shipley) Oil Engines. I have two large Robsons. The large one is a CHY 105 BHP with a 17 inch dia piston and a 24 inch stroke, the other is a CHW 70 BHP 13 inch dia piston and a 22 inch stroke.
I have attached two pictures of the larger one as it was and where it was when it powered a large centrifugal pump for flood irrigation and the other is of starting to remove the crankshaft for transportation.
From memory the flywheel, crankshaft and auxillary pulleys showed 6.1 tonnes on the mobile cranes scale.
Jim
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28th Oct 2021, 10:13 PM #29
Hi Jim,
Thanks for your post. Glad that you liked my pictures !
Visiting local museums, 100 mile radius, particularly Engineering ones is something that I enjoy.
Regarding the "Robson" No unfortunately I haven't come across one of those ! From your description and pictures they look to be pretty big engines, six and a half tons isn't exactly fly weight !
Oddly enough I was in Shipley a few days ago, nice general Wednesday market. But I will do a search for "Robson" and see if they still exist and where they used to be.Best Regards:
Baron J.
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