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13th Aug 2021, 09:28 PM #16Member: Blue and white apron brigade
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13th Aug 2021, 09:38 PM #17Diamond Member
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Good luck with it all, I hope that you get through with out too much drama. Might I suggest a diesel heater for some protection from a Melbourne Winter. They can be built into something like an old army ammo case, and the hot air and return air lines ducted into your shed. You will be amazed just how much heat these small heaters punch out and they are quite frugal in fuel consumption terms. If you no longer need it when the house is completed, it will be easy to remove the temporary ducts and make good, with very little trace remaining. Of course you may just like to have the additional heat for shed comfort when you are able to reclaim the shed for its intended purpose.
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14th Aug 2021, 12:01 PM #18
Definitely agree Shed needs to be bigger than house.
Having married a Canadian raised on a farm in the prairies used to huge machinery sheds I got away with it in suburban Sydney. As long as it’s presentable from the street all’s good.
We did add a top story to the house and just lately a sun room up top for our dotage.
(Shed still bigger)
Sold off my extensive old tool collection to help fund the former
Want to park your nice car in the shed? No way I’ll just knock up a quick carport to protect it from branches wot drop off the Australian Red Cedar in backyard.
Now we’re in lockdown she’s happy reading in the sunroom or working on a quilt in her sewing nook whilst I’m out in the shed or on the pedley.
H.Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)
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15th Aug 2021, 12:55 PM #19Member
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15th Aug 2021, 01:01 PM #20Golden Member
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All these large sheds = makkin' me jealous!
Ropetangler - I have been eyeing those small diesel heaters - cheaps as chips and, as you say, quite frugal it seems.
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15th Aug 2021, 01:39 PM #21Member: Blue and white apron brigade
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15th Aug 2021, 10:08 PM #22Most Valued Member
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15th Aug 2021, 11:11 PM #24Most Valued Member
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I’ve no idea about the actual particulates, but in my experience they seem to run very clean. Zero soot or visible smoke/haze.
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16th Aug 2021, 12:32 AM #25Diamond Member
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That is my experience too, some particulates and smell on initial startup but once running, no smoke and no soot from the exhaust, but some smell just like a diesel engine if you are close to the exhaust. (And not the really noxious smell like some old diesels which would make your eyes water, and make it difficult to breathe either)
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16th Aug 2021, 07:46 AM #26Most Valued Member
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Those diesel heaters are pretty bloody good, especially for the price. But as an avid camper and traveller I hate them with a passion.
Every man and his dog has one in their caravan and camping trailer. Sitting in front of your camp fire on a cool night, all you can hear is the collective roar in the distance from people's heaters.
Doesn't even have to be really cold for people to use them. It seems that people use them because they can. People set up their caravan, turn on their heater and they never step foot outside!
It's like people want to see the outback or bush but not experience it!
They would be great for the shed though.
Simon
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16th Aug 2021, 08:13 AM #27Philomath in training
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How much warm, moist (combustion products) air is it going to pump into a space filled with poor, cold defenseless cast iron machines?
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16th Aug 2021, 08:23 AM #28Member: Blue and white apron brigade
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I've been working with invisible air borne particulates for about 40 years and the first thing I learned is just because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not there - sometimes in spades.To check the fine particulate operation of my wood dust detectors all I do is put them within a couple of meters from my running diesel van's exhaust pipe which also has no visible soot or smoke emissions and the detectors max out within seconds
If there's even a bit of s slight breeze it can carry the fine particulates away but I'm thinking of still balmy cold nights or mornings and these heaters fogging the air around the shed with zillions of these cancer inducting particles. I won't even have a gas heater or stove in our house.
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Hi Michael,
Those heaters have a heat exchanger type setup similar to central heating in the home. The combustion chamber is isolated from the airflow going into the space it heats.
There should be little to no particulates or combustion products vented into the shed.
Same, same with caravans. The exhaust is vented externally. As a tent camper for many years it's stiff if your tent is next to the exhaust vent of a caravan in the next spot! At least they are warm and comfortable I guess!
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16th Aug 2021, 10:38 AM #30Member: Blue and white apron brigade
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Directly yes, but all it takes is for the breeze to blow back and forth (unless the van is air tight which is not good for you either) particulates will get inside your building/caravan. Breezes blowing past any building or van generate a slightly lower pressure inside that building/van which means it will suck the particulates inside. I've often seen this effect while studying/desinging/building clean laboratories. One the 1980's when we were cutting our teeth on this we could pick up the differences in morning and evening traffic peak particulate concentration inside a so called clean lab, from major freeway traffic over 5km away due to changes in morning and afternoon prevailing winds.
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