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27th Dec 2020, 12:33 PM #1Diamond Member
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Horizontal bandsaws h & forbes or kaka ?
Firstly MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE.
I'm looking at buying a Bandsaw for my work sometime next year. I already have a 6" X 6" Power Hacksaw for cutting solid metal sections. I have been looking at the Hare & Forbes BS-916A, Kaka BS-912B and the Kaka BS-1018B.
I'm only really looking at the Kaka BS-1018B as it's priced similarly to the H&F BS-916A but at the same time they do look to be a more robust saw. I was wondering if anyone has a Kaka Bandsaw or used one and what they thought of them ?. Thanks in advance.All The Best steran50 Stewart
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27th Dec 2020, 01:34 PM #2I break stuff...
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I doubt there is a significant difference between them to be honest, although the Kaka is likely made in China. I'd pick neither around here - big bandsaws often come up on the used market, normally with decent brands on them at a cheap price.
I'm aware that finding (and transporting) used gear is normally a bit of an issue for you down there, but there is one just up the road in Eden:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...code=undefined
No cheaper than the Kaka, but a bit more capacity, beefier, made in Taiwan, and has two big roller tables. 3 phase, but I assume you have that in the industrial estate where you are - if not, it's only 2 hp, so the current 240v to 415v vfds you can get would be cheap and easy.
May actually be overkill for what you need, but it's been up there for nearly 2 months. You know as well as I do how limited his market is going to be around there for something of that size, so I'd imagine he'll be amenable to offers.
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27th Dec 2020, 07:52 PM #3Diamond Member
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Your probably right in that there's probably not a great deal of difference in them. I wasn't aware of the Bandsaw in Eden so thanks for that. I have got a good three phase supply at my Workshop. I'm not really in a rush to buy a Bandsaw and the saw in Eden is a bit overkill, but it's close by so I am going to give it some serious thought.
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28th Dec 2020, 08:55 AM #4
Only bandsaw I have with a Kaka sticker on it is a small benchtop unit. Looks to be a clone of the Garrack branded one I have had for quite a while. Quality wise, would grab the Garrack any day, but there is a price penalty. The swivel head comes in handy at times.
My 'slightly' smaller than what you are looking at, BS-912 hasnt let me down yet after about 8 odd years of service.
If I had my time again I would seriously consider a swivel head model for such a machine.
Bladewise have been running Excision units (no shares in I'm afraid). Been doing fine.
Good luck with it.
JattFrisky wife, happy life. Then I woke up. Oh well it was fun while it lasted.From an early age my father taught me to wear welding gloves . "Its not to protect your hands son, its to put out the fire when u set yourself alight".
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If anything, I prefer something that is an overkill at present, because it will allow you to cut larger material should the need arise. We have a bandsaw here that works right on its limit (150mm @ 45 degree), then there are occasions where we need to cut larger RHS (150 X 250 X 10mm) at 45 degree , so we have to cut it with angle grinders, both noisy and time consuming, marking out can be a pain with the large Radii on the corners
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28th Dec 2020, 02:00 PM #6
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I'm looking at buying a Bandsaw for my work sometime next year.
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If anything, I prefer something that is an overkill at present, because it will allow you to cut larger material should the need arise.Frisky wife, happy life. Then I woke up. Oh well it was fun while it lasted.From an early age my father taught me to wear welding gloves . "Its not to protect your hands son, its to put out the fire when u set yourself alight".
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28th Dec 2020, 03:10 PM #7Diamond Member
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Thanks for the reply's. I have to agree with you Guys about going for something that is overkill. There has been a number of times that I've had to cut a large piece of steel with an angle grinder that wouldn't fit in my power hacksaw. I just messaged the Seller of the Bandsaw to see if it's still available and if the location is correct. If it goes ahead I reckon I will be selling my Power Hacksaw as the bandsaw should be able cope with what solid steel sections I cut on the power hacksaw. I'll let you all know how it turns out.
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28th Dec 2020, 03:23 PM #8
Gotta admit power hacksaw blades can make quite useful tools.
Some will cringe, but have bought a few new ones in the past to make a specialised tool we use in the shop. Cut em in half and gives me 2 out of 1 blade. Must be mindful tho of the "shatter factor" if they flex too much sideways.Frisky wife, happy life. Then I woke up. Oh well it was fun while it lasted.From an early age my father taught me to wear welding gloves . "Its not to protect your hands son, its to put out the fire when u set yourself alight".
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28th Dec 2020, 07:56 PM #9Diamond Member
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I have heard Jatt that apparently Power Hacksaw blades make good scrapers. I must have a go at one myself and see what they are like as a gasket scraper. Just an update on the Bandsaw it's still available so I'm meeting up with the Seller at his workshop tomorrow to have a look.
All The Best steran50 Stewart
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28th Dec 2020, 08:33 PM #10
I haven't been able to find hacksaw blades thick enough. They need to be at least 2.5mm thick. I found strips of circular saw blades to work well, with a piece of tungsten carbide brazed on the end.
You want some flexibility without them deforming.
Cheers
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29th Dec 2020, 02:02 PM #11Diamond Member
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I paid the seller a deposit this morning after looking at the Bandsaw. I didn't haggle with him on price and the way he spoke I don't think he was going to budge anyway plus he is going to load it on the trailer for me. The saw is a bit bigger than what I would have preferred, but I felt at $2900 cash that it was a good buy. It comes with 4 new bi-metal blades, two roller stands, repetitive length stop for one stand and everything is in good nic.
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