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    I hate to be "that guy", but is it legal to DIY modify the pedals of your own car? The company Kryn linked to will have gone through a testing regime and obtained approval for their pedal modification.

    If you have access to NDIS funding I'd be pursuing that and getting a commercially available mod fitted. If not, would it be possible to modify the seat rails to give you more legroom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    Yes, would have to get on my knees and reach up under the dash to get access to and see the 3 mounting bolts, undo them. I would then have to fit a different pedal on the Left side, as the standard pedal would not fit.
    If I'd had a few and it was dark...it would be harder.....lol
    My original suggestion was to have a module located by keyhole locators and spring loaded pin for locking it to a plate on the floor / firewall.
    Its an electronic device, there is no reason for it to be mounted under the dash, if the locking pin is extended up far enough you would be able to swap it from side to side single handed while in a seated position.

    Using mechanical linkages is complicating the solution that is 90 % solved because you already have DBW.

    As pointed out check the legalities of doing this work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    I hate to be "that guy", but is it legal to DIY modify the pedals of your own car? The company Kryn linked to will have gone through a testing regime and obtained approval for their pedal modification.

    If you have access to NDIS funding I'd be pursuing that and getting a commercially available mod fitted. If not, would it be possible to modify the seat rails to give you more legroom?
    As far as I know I can modify my vehicle as long as it passes inspection. I did this when I bought the car. There wasn't a local business who could approve the mod so I got permission to was able to get a auto mechanic to inspect and approve.

    I do have access to the NDIS and asked them if they knew of a company who could do the mod, but they couldn't help me.
    There's a company in Perth (200 km away ) who are known for tray back conversions, etc who have done some vehicle mods, but they were the ones who gave me a vague '8 hours' rsponse a while ago.

    I realise this is a complicated project and request for ideas and I appreciate all your ideas guys, thanks.

    I took some pics and found my 'spare' accelerator pedal so I will post later today. (my Samsung phone won't play with any PC I have access to, so its hard to get the pics off the phone atm.....grrrr )

    As a precurser, I see the pedal appears to need o be mounted at a slight angle to fit in the car AND the pedal arm is a crazy shape to get the pedal in the correct position.... It appears to have been made to fit the space available.
    Not a good sign.

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    Forum is not letting me attach pics, for some reason. I have resized them down to 63 kb and still no go.
    Sorry. Will try later.\\Steve

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    Steve
    Let me understand what you have and what you are trying to achieve.

    You have a 2006 Audi A6 that has been modified by
    moving the accelerator pedal to the left of the brake pedal ??
    Making this modification allows the space where the accelerator was to be available for your prosthetic right foot with it's restricted ankle movement.

    firstly, I'm somewhat surprised that the modification is considered "legal" as I would expect the requirement for the brake pedal to be located to the left of the accelerator (as it is in ever car and truck I've ever been in) would hold even of you drive using only your left foot.

    First off I think you should confirm this -- to my way of thinking -- totally unorthodox arrangement of foot pedals is actually "road legal". The presumed date of the modification would suggest it was performed before the NDIS got up and running.

    Secondly, I fully understand why your wife will not drive your car. I've seen cars modified with a hand throttle, but swapping the position of the throttle and brake pedals ???

    Thirdly, I suggest you put real pressure on the NDIS to get your car fixed. And until the car is fixed you say off the sherbets ...
    regards from Canmore

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    It is legal to have the accelerator pedal on the left hand side, there are plenty of amputees that have no right foot.
    Steve is NOT wanting to swap or move the brake pedal, just move the accelerator pedal with the right one out of the way.
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    Here's another commercial one: https://totalability.com.au/products...t-accelerator/

    They have an installer in Perth: https://www.freedommotorsaustralia.com.au/
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    I took some pics and found my 'spare' accelerator pedal so I will post later today. (my Samsung phone won't play with any PC I have access to, so its hard to get the pics off the phone atm.....grrrr )
    I often email the pictures to myself when I'm feeling too lazy to plug the phone into the computer and wait for the contents to be scanned by Windows...

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    As a precurser, I see the pedal appears to need o be mounted at a slight angle to fit in the car AND the pedal arm is a crazy shape to get the pedal in the correct position.... It appears to have been made to fit the space available.
    Not a good sign.
    It’s DBW find the components that allow you to put the pedal where you want it, don’t start with something that is not adjustable to the requirements.

    Metal shaft can be bent to put the pedal where you need it.
    https://raceworks.com.au/sensors/acc...pedal-sensors/

    Pedal can be mounted at different angles.
    https://www.lokar.com/assets/instruc...riveByWire.pdf

    Just the electronics itself, sort out your own pedal.
    https://www.peracing.com.au/product/...ted-pedal-box/

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    My daughter has a fused right ankle after a head on accident. She had a left foot accelerator fitted by Frank's Engineering here in Victoria. The pedals flip up. If she is driving, the left accelerator is down and the right flips up. If her husband drives, he flips the left up and the right down. It works perfectly and allows room for the non-working foot . There would have to be someone in your area that does them. Take a look at a few of the websites. It may give you the right idea.
    It works similar to the passenger side learner car pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    Steve
    Let me understand what you have and what you are trying to achieve.

    You have a 2006 Audi A6 that has been modified by
    moving the accelerator pedal to the left of the brake pedal ??
    Making this modification allows the space where the accelerator was to be available for your prosthetic right foot with it's restricted ankle movement.

    firstly, I'm somewhat surprised that the modification is considered "legal" as I would expect the requirement for the brake pedal to be located to the left of the accelerator (as it is in ever car and truck I've ever been in) would hold even of you drive using only your left foot.

    First off I think you should confirm this -- to my way of thinking -- totally unorthodox arrangement of foot pedals is actually "road legal". The presumed date of the modification would suggest it was performed before the NDIS got up and running.

    Secondly, I fully understand why your wife will not drive your car. I've seen cars modified with a hand throttle, but swapping the position of the throttle and brake pedals ???

    Thirdly, I suggest you put real pressure on the NDIS to get your car fixed. And until the car is fixed you say off the sherbets ...

    Hi Ian,
    Trust me, it is 100% legal. Nothing shonky going on here. Most R leg amputees would have this mod, I suspect.

    The NDIS just gave me a blank look when I mentioned this and there aren't any businesses around here that would be competent to do this mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droog View Post
    It’s DBW find the components that allow you to put the pedal where you want it, don’t start with something that is not adjustable to the requirements.

    Metal shaft can be bent to put the pedal where you need it.
    https://raceworks.com.au/sensors/acc...pedal-sensors/

    Pedal can be mounted at different angles.
    https://www.lokar.com/assets/instruc...riveByWire.pdf

    Just the electronics itself, sort out your own pedal.
    https://www.peracing.com.au/product/...ted-pedal-box/

    Ok, thanks Droog.
    I will look into this option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adyadad View Post
    My daughter has a fused right ankle after a head on accident. She had a left foot accelerator fitted by Frank's Engineering here in Victoria. The pedals flip up. If she is driving, the left accelerator is down and the right flips up. If her husband drives, he flips the left up and the right down. It works perfectly and allows room for the non-working foot . There would have to be someone in your area that does them. Take a look at a few of the websites. It may give you the right idea.
    It works similar to the passenger side learner car pedals.
    That was my orignial goal, flip down pedals, but I can't find anyone to do it.
    I actually bought the car from melbourne and if I had know would have got it done before it was shipped over.......doh.
    Someone told me about Franks and how the cost was very reasonable.

    The UK business got back to me. No go on a kit I could fit myself.....

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll and Hyde View Post
    I often email the pictures to myself when I'm feeling too lazy to plug the phone into the computer and wait for the contents to be scanned by Windows...
    Yes, that is what I have to do....quite annoying when my S6 worked flawlessly......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    Here's another commercial one: https://totalability.com.au/products...t-accelerator/

    They have an installer in Perth: https://www.freedommotorsaustralia.com.au/

    Thanks Jack. Their setup seems to 'blank' the right accelerator when using the left one ( which is no good for me ) but I will email to see if their are any other options.

    I must admit....I hadn't rechecked to see if any new businesses had popped up recently, and I have been found out...lol
    I relied on last I investigated this. (A couple of years ago. )
    Maybe the advent of the NDIS has improved services , in the last couple of years, somewhat.....

    I have also sent emails to the links Droog posted to see if they have any expereince with this problem and if their modules are compatible with my Audi.
    Sorry Droog. I initally didn't follow what you were saying, but it makes sense now I've seen the links. Thanks.

    I also found a local business that helps elderly people and pertain to do vehilce mods, locally. They are adjacent to a Mens Shed, so they might be their source of manpower.

    I few leads to chase up. Thanks guys.

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