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13th Aug 2020, 09:25 AM #1
Please Help Me Find......
Hi guys and Gals,
have been wandering all over EBay trying to find hand scrapers. I seem to be finding plenty of bearing scrapers but not even one hand scraper for scraping the ways of a machine. So my question is.... How do I locate them? Am I searching for the wrong thing?
Thanks in advance.
Matt
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13th Aug 2020, 10:16 AM #2Golden Member
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Me too unless you lay crazy money. In the end I bought some 5mm steel and will make my own. Where are you, I can try and make an extra one if you like (or you can have the test version ).
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13th Aug 2020, 10:22 AM #3Member
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[QUOTE=matthew_g;1972876]Hi guys and Gals,
have been wandering all over EBay trying to find hand scrapers.
Matt. Try this link if you have big dollars
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SANDVIK-...wAAOSwSIBfLBZk
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13th Aug 2020, 10:57 AM #4Most Valued Member
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Link to Anderson Scrapers
https://andersonscraper.com/
and a vid from youtube on DIYer..this is very much like what Phil was selling at his classes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7WYnbOIGWY
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13th Aug 2020, 11:16 AM #5
There not cheap but can be easily made, you just need to buy the carbide squares, you don't need to buy there tips.
I paid $220 with postage for a new Sandvic, a quality home made scraper, 2 beautiful handles, spare tips and bluing compound from Phill when the scraping classes used to be held in Melbourne.
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13th Aug 2020, 01:00 PM #6New Member
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I made a couple from old blunt flat files. Just cut the file about four inches from the tang, Grind the teeth of the file off top and bottom and and shape the end to taste.
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13th Aug 2020, 02:32 PM #7Most Valued Member
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If you want to make your own scraper then a fairly cheap source for tungsten is https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-Tungst...72.m2749.l2649 grind and lap to suit your needs.
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13th Aug 2020, 03:53 PM #8I break stuff...
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https://www.greenwood-tools.co.uk/sh...er-256840.html
Price shown includes the 20% vat, checkout automatically deducts it. I got the 20mm wide one, cost me $120 posted, including card fees for foreign currency.
If you want to try and find alternate suppliers, google the Sandvik part numbers from that link (the product code is the sandvik number.) The 25mm is most common, pretty sure I found someone in Australia selling it, but think it was more expensive.
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14th Aug 2020, 12:15 AM #10Diamond Member
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Hi Matt,
As several have already mentioned, genuine Sandvik are quite expensive it seems, but if you don't count the cost of your time, they would not be too difficult or expensive to make. Here is a link to a great Tom Lipton YouTube vid on a pretty simple to make jig to enable easy and consistently good sharpening of your carbide inserts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUqX4XWB2gA You will need something whether you buy or make your own. If you just need one for a month or two, to either use or copy, I have one which I am prepared to lend you, but as PDW has alluded to in another thread, I have work for it myself when I get around to it so I don't want to dispose of it permanently.
Rob.
PS The jig action starts at around the 42'40" mark if I recall, but you will enjoy the rest of it as well anyway
RT.Last edited by Ropetangler; 14th Aug 2020 at 11:45 PM. Reason: Added missing link
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14th Aug 2020, 01:24 AM #11Golden Member
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Blackwoods has 20mm carbide scrapers for $199 https://www.blackwoods.com.au/tools-...020/p/01214518
Or tool steel scrapers starting at $58.78 https://www.blackwoods.com.au/tools-...97b/p/07255201
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14th Aug 2020, 09:33 AM #12
I didn't look at the second one, but the first 20mm one is only 300mm long
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There's a couple of photos of one I made at the start of this thread:https://metalworkforums.com/f65/t201...raping-project
The blank was a real Sandvik one via ebay. Think it cost me about $40 delivered from Europe somewhere.
I also made a narrow one with an old carbide turning insert and tried an old file.
In comparison to carbide, a file makes a very poor scraper IMO as it loses its edge much more quickly and requires very frequent honing.
Maybe I just haven't got the geometry correct or the file I used has gone a bit soft. Great if you just need something of a particular shape/size that you can't get into with carbide one/s you have, but not as your main scraper.
I haven't done a lot of scraping, but as a complete newbie to start with I watched plenty of Youtube videos and read any text I could find etc, then just practiced on some scrap lumps of cast iron.
The quickest improvement came when I was able to meet with someone who had decent scraping experience to critique my efforts and demonstrate techniques using their own scrapers. Its a very tactile process and you can't pick up pressure and feel from Youtube.
Steve
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