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26th Jun 2020, 10:57 AM #16Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Fast Freddie
Best buys I've found, have occurred when there's unloved machines in a corner of a factory.....pays to be a nosy bastard in industrial areas sometimes.
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26th Jun 2020, 04:23 PM #17Most Valued Member
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I recently purchased a King Rich KJV 3000 from Newmac Machinery in Victoria, the one I purchased cane with a 90 degree drive and horizontal arbor support, but they have the sister machine which came from the same owner and is the same spec, but without the 90 degree drive and arbor support. 5Hp variable speed head, 40 taper spindle, powered X axis, powered rapid on the knee, coolant and DRO. These are an upscaled Bridgeport and weigh around 1.7 tonne. Both machines came from a workshop shutdown due to retirement I believe and the one I got is in excellent condition and appears to have been very well looked after during its life.
I found my machine on Used & New Heavy Industrial Machines, Machinery & Equipment for sale at Australia's No.1 Online Machinery Market
I have no connection to Newmac other than being a happy customer.
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26th Jun 2020, 04:27 PM #18
Thanks for those ideas, do you think that $3,000 - $4,000 is still about the right price for a decent, second-hand, proper industrial mill?
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26th Jun 2020, 08:01 PM #19Most Valued Member
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That really depends on what it is and where you are. I'm a Tasmanian and the pool of used machines is limited somewhat and you almost need an inside contact to get much of a bargain. Ex TAFE machines down here go to auction and typically achieve stupidly high pricing if they are remotely desirable, although 5+ tonne horizontal mills can be had cheaply but there are reasons for this too.
The last ex TAFE Bridgeport I semi took an interest in was an older step pulley head with an R8 spindle and no power feed other than the quill. It went to online auction and went for $4890 +15% buyers premium + 10% GST - $6185 thanks for coming.
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26th Jun 2020, 09:48 PM #20Most Valued Member
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Gavin,
I had the same machine as the HM52 but from another seller.
It was was poor. Decided to sell and get a HF BM30.
Apart for the non confirmed problem I posted about a few weeks back it is excellent. Even the guys on the other site say they are very good when comparing to a Bridgeport.
The problem I had is probably my fault for not lubricating daily as I was susposed to do.
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26th Jun 2020, 10:01 PM #21
Just thinking, I bought a 3 peice set of M16x2 taps from machinery house probably 10 years ago now for a one off job at the time,
John a member here picked it it up for me on the way through is why I remember it.
It was around $16.80 from memory, but got the shock of my life looking for another size from them to see it's now now $50.40 for the same set.
What a mark up there is these days.Using Tapatalk
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26th Jun 2020, 11:56 PM #22
I looked long and hard at the BM30 but I can't find the floor space for it in the workshop at the moment. I currently have a very, very worn out round column mill drill (which cost me the massive sum of $200 second hand many years ago) so anything would be an improvement. It comes down to whether I upgrade the mill drill to something like a HM48, which would still be a vast improvement on what I have now, or go into the industrial mill area. Maybe this is an excuse to build yet another shed - council permitting.
Decisions, decisions...
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27th Jun 2020, 06:16 PM #23
Is that's the case go for a HM52 or 54, see if anything is available second hand first as you will save a bunch of money.
I us my HM52 pretty much daily, and am not looking to upgrade anytime soon as it does everything I ask of it and more with the horizontal spindle.
I've had jobs and no way could it be done vertical, put a ER collet chuck in the horizontal and problem fixed.Using Tapatalk
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28th Jun 2020, 07:54 PM #24Most Valued Member
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There is also the BM23a which is 240v and slightly small table...check out the differences between 23a and 30 as 23a is cheaper
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1st Jul 2020, 04:30 AM #25Senior Member
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My first post on this forum so hi guys.
This thread is very pertinent to my situation so i follow with great interest.
I am in the process of re purposing my shed and will be adding a mill and surface grinder. The shed was not built as a workshop, double brick with plastered walls and tiled floor. It is not very large so machine size is very important but the major problem is it only has a 720mm wide entrance so what ever i get will need to fit through that. I was looking at the HM54 because i like the horizontal. I am not ready to buy yet so haven't been to measure them to see which will fit. I have a Taiwanese 13x24 inch ex tafe lathe, at a friends house, which will be coming home as well and that will fit through.
Am thinking of an SG820 grinder, cant decide manual or hydraulic yet, but they don't have one in stock and cant tell me any details about the size apart from shipping dimensions. Hopefully that will fit through the door.
Can anybody comment on machines that may fit through with a little dismantling.
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1st Jul 2020, 07:27 PM #26Most Valued Member
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1st Jul 2020, 09:23 PM #27Senior Member
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Big machines are out of the question. The main limit is the small size of the shed, only 30 square meters. I wish i could find a nice small modern quality machine like a Schaublin with a vertical head and a quill, Australia seems too focused on big. I am looking at clock making and other similar sized projects so don't really need or want something i can put 1 tonne on the table.
The door doesn't have a lintel over it and the roof and ceiling would need quite a bit of work to prop it up and brick in a new frame. Too many projects on my list already so trying to avoid that. i would if i realy had too but i don't want big.
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2nd Jul 2020, 12:33 AM #28
Hi Guys,
Talking about new doors, I've just had a quote for a new 1 mtr wide 6 ft high door putting into my garage rear wall. Its stone built and only a single leaf, there isn't a lintel, just the timber beam supporting the garage roof.
£330 inc fitting, £239 just supplied. The whole solid door comes complete in the frame with a solid 50 mm step. I intend fitting a small ramp on each side so that I can roll machinery over it without crushing it.
Only snag at the moment is this dammed lock down and I'm on shielding so I can't get involved with workmen and I'm not fit enough to do it by myself.Best Regards:
Baron J.
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