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29th Apr 2020, 10:00 PM #1Novice
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Moving a 350 kg Milling machine onto a base
Well I survived installing the new lathe after considerable good advice from this forum and it works - but the operator needs some more practice - and this hopefully will come with the rain !!!
I am in the final stages of buying a milling machine - and on the advice from those wiser than me - and as I have the space am looking at a mid size machine -
a Hare and Forbes HM 46 B
The problem is similar to that with the lathe in that its got to go inside a garage - ceiling height is not bad at 2.5 metres - but it weights around 350 kg
Was looking at breaking it down - but even then the bits weigh around 100kg apiece and this all has to go onto a stand
With the lathe I rented an engine hoist from Kennards and with this was able to shift the lather onto its stand ok - but dont think its big enough for this
Am looking to see it there are any gantry type cranes with a chain block that I could use - but would appreciate any advice from anyone who has been through this process themselves
Any advice on how best to lift - ie anchor points also appreciated
Thanks
Rumble
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29th Apr 2020, 11:57 PM #2
I've got a 2.5m ceiling as well and got my HM52 Mill in there with a 2 ton engine crane. I separated the mill head with the ram and installed it once the mill was in place.
A HM46 should be a breeze complete.Using Tapatalk
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30th Apr 2020, 12:47 AM #3Senior Member
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My geared head drill weighs about the same and I moved that with a 2 tonne engine crane. With 2.4m ceiling height it was close. Need some short slings.
Tony
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30th Apr 2020, 09:06 AM #4Most Valued Member
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Kennards also hire portable gantries and chain blocks. However you would have to check to see that its not too tall for inside your garage.
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30th Apr 2020, 09:29 AM #5Most Valued Member
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I would think pretty much any engine lift would be rated at 500kg minimum, even mostly extended you'll be fine.
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30th Apr 2020, 04:33 PM #6Most Valued Member
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Drill and tap a couple of holes in the top of the column casting for eye bolts. Put a piece of solid bar through the eye bolts to lift from.
That is the least sketchy way I can think of to move an RF 45/46 with an engine crane. I used a gantry and two small chain blocks to put mine in position with 2.5m ceilings. It was a cluster... there wasn’t enough headroom, the sling angles were waaaayyy outside desirable and it was just generally a good example of not what to do (particularly given I hold a riggers ticket). I will be drilling the top of the casting when I move mine next.
Oh and make sure your crane is good for 500kg at full stick, not max when it’s short hooked.
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30th Apr 2020, 06:38 PM #7
I see most engine cranes sold these days at H&F, Super cheap, Repco etc are only rated at 1250kg max close in.
You need to look harder for a heavier duty version of the 2 ton like mine with 4mm steel box section.
I think Simon has the 3 ton one, which would be nice, but a lot heavier again.
You can always take the head off, grab a piece of paper and draw where the wiring goes, also take a few pictures.Using Tapatalk
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30th Apr 2020, 09:14 PM #8Senior Member
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I just used an engine crane to do mine. Was a bit touch and go with the height, but lifting capacity was no issue at all.
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1st May 2020, 09:31 AM #9Golden Member
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I broke mine down to get it off the trailer and then rebuilt it on the stand.
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1st May 2020, 09:53 AM #10Most Valued Member
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Use the floor crane, swing head to Horizontal, sling between head and column.
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1st May 2020, 03:44 PM #11Most Valued Member
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Works but not generally considered good practice to sling off around a mobile joint.
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3rd May 2020, 01:30 AM #12Novice
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Moving a Mill
Thanks to all the input
Have a friend who is loaning me a full 1 tonne engine hoist - so can take my time and
Best way from another expert is to sling around the swivel head interface - with it horizonal as commented by another on the forum
Rumble
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3rd May 2020, 10:41 PM #13Senior Member
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Engine hoists
With the talk about lifting turret mill heads and using H & F style engine hoists I'm reminded about lifting mine in to position. What I find annoying with these hoists are the angled feet. At the end they're too wide to go under the front of a car but when you need to get close to something they're too narrow. I now have the best of both worlds with a simple modification. The black bits are what I made but the photo's should tell the story better than I could explain.
My Lagun FTV-4 top section weighs well over 300kg and because of the modification assembly was a breeze.SAM_2189.jpgSAM_2190.jpgSAM_2191.jpgDSCN0348.jpg
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3rd May 2020, 10:57 PM #14Diamond Member
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