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    Default Warning - Do not buy from China!

    Apart form all the obvious reasons of supporting local suppliers, unpredictable quality, etc, shipping from China has now completely fallen over!

    I'm tracking a number of items ordered in the middle of March, using China Post Registered Air Mail, ePacket, AliExpress Standard Shipping and EMS shipping.
    Most of the orders have been dispatched from the various suppliers but appear to be held up at the airport and can't leave China.

    I contacted supplier of the oldest order expressing my concern and here is the reply I received:

    Hello, dear friend. Due to the epidemic situation, China Customs has controlled several windows now, and the parcels are basically overstocked in the customs. The staff are dealing with them slowly. Please wait a few more days, and we will also urge the post office, please forgive me, thank you very much

    I think that answer speaks for itself, parcels are held up at the departure point and not leaving the country and there appears to be no answer as when that will change.

    I don't know exactly when this started but I (and others) have received items ordered in Jan and Feb, however, these parcels all left China within a week of placing the order but that's no longer the case.

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    I am having the same troubles. Some equipment I ordered is backlogged - the mob in question are getting out about 200 packages a week, which is something... except that my number in the queue is in the 18,000s somewhere. Not going to see that anytime soon.

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    It is not only China having the same trouble in Aus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by China View Post
    It is not only China having the same trouble in Aus.
    Aus certainly experiencing extended delays. What's normally overnight is now one week. Toll seem to be the pretty bad, Startrack and TNT appear to be OK. AusPost absolutely woeful, by far the worst.
    Aus freight is slow but China freight is simply not happening at all.

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    Apparently a lot of small stuff is send as freight on passenger aircraft ( I didnt realise that until recently). As we all know, atm, there are not many passenger aircraft flying. We just all have to be patient I suppose. Not much else we can do.
    peter

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    Got a package from NZ today. Overnight express. Only took 14 days. Usually takes 2 or 3 days. Still waiting for stuff from the USA and that's been 3 weeks.

    Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheApprentice View Post
    Apart form all the obvious reasons of supporting local suppliers, unpredictable quality, etc, shipping from China has now completely fallen over!

    I'm tracking a number of items ordered in the middle of March, using China Post Registered Air Mail, ePacket, AliExpress Standard Shipping and EMS shipping.
    Most of the orders have been dispatched from the various suppliers but appear to be held up at the airport and can't leave China.

    I contacted supplier of the oldest order expressing my concern and here is the reply I received:

    Hello, dear friend. Due to the epidemic situation, China Customs has controlled several windows now, and the parcels are basically overstocked in the customs. The staff are dealing with them slowly. Please wait a few more days, and we will also urge the post office, please forgive me, thank you very much

    I think that answer speaks for itself, parcels are held up at the departure point and not leaving the country and there appears to be no answer as when that will change.

    I don't know exactly when this started but I (and others) have received items ordered in Jan and Feb, however, these parcels all left China within a week of placing the order but that's no longer the case.
    The answer to when that will change will be when aircraft start flying en masse again. That is unlikely to happen anytime soon on an intercontinental basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by bollie7 View Post
    Apparently a lot of small stuff is send as freight on passenger aircraft ( I didnt realise that until recently). As we all know, atm, there are not many passenger aircraft flying. We just all have to be patient I suppose. Not much else we can do.
    peter
    It isn't just small stuff, I have had racks of communication equipment the size and weight of a small car sent 'next flight' for service restoration during natural disasters, I dread to think of the cost. If it fits through the hole without being too long, it can be transported (dangerous and prohibited not withstanding). Freight is more profitable than passengers, that is why your bags get bumped when I send my tools somewhere. Every airline has freight contracts and every aircraft that goes wheels up will almost certainly have freight in the hold. I have heard it said that a flight's overhead costs are covered by the freight carriage, the passengers provide the profit margin, whether there is substance to that I don't know. Given it costs you the GDP of a small island nation if your bag is overweight these days, it wouldn't be unbelievable, more passenger baggage means less weight available for cargo.

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    Its not just china, we need a new circuit board for our wire cutter at work, there is one in Singapore, but no way for it to get freighted to us.

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    I believe a complete rethink is warranted regarding what we,as a nation,should buy from this country in question.

    I am looking at what I can do without. Make it, fix it, make do or do with out.

    I am surprised more don't feel the same way. Given what has happened it is now much more than about saving a dollar.

    Grahame

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    With out a doubt we should use this situation to restart manufacturing in Australia, not something that could be completed overnight and as you say,go back to "fix this" rather than chuck it in the bin and buy a replacement

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    Hi China,

    My sentiments entirely ! As a country we have given away all the skills and expertise that we used to have in exchange for a quick profit ! Not that it will change much, far too many greedy people and greedy companies for that to happen. The investment in the UK today is minimal, a side effect of low wages and unaffordability. So the circle continues.

    Even in agriculture, the UK relies on foreign workers to pick vegetables, fruit and other produce ! But the Government says we must reduce immigration and stop foreign workers taking our jobs. What rubbish ! Without foreign workers we couldn't survive. Brits don't want to do those jobs, its beneath them. Same with the hospitality industry. There are more foreigners doing the menial jobs than Brits.
    Best Regards:
    Baron J.

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    I've heard this argument before... how did they put it... 'yellow peril'.

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    I recently ordered a package of micro Al tubing to make some moving coil meter pointers - from Newcastle NSW to Adelaide - over 3.5 weeks.

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    Hi,

    I must of been lucky. I ordered a new scooter wheel last Saturday and received it Thursday (via the local bike shop - btw making a replacement wheel might be a great machining project for the future) and I've bought a couple of things of ebay and received them within a week - all located in Australia.

    Hopefully this pandemic will make our leaders and countries have a hard think about globalization, rationalization and the capitalist systems. Maybe people in general will realize being a nation of barista's, casual workers, work hire contractors and being a participant in the "jig economy" is not such a good thing. Putting all our manufactured "eggs'' in the Chinese basket isn't too smart either.

    Hopefully we can take advantage of the terrible situation.

    Ben.

    ps I bought a heap of car accessories for a VW Amarok which the website tells me they are all Australian made (we'll see when they turn up).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Keen View Post
    I've heard this argument before... how did they put it... 'yellow peril'.

    Old Moores Almanac predicted way back in the eighty’s that the "Yellow People will take over the World" and that is just what is happening today. People used to say "America sneezes, and the rest of the world catches a cold" today it seems that China sneezes...
    Best Regards:
    Baron J.

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