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    Default Klopp shaper info

    So I bought a shaper, turns out its a little bigger than I guessed in the photos. It's a 850H. 850mm stroke hydraulic machine.

    Having a bear of s time finding any info on it such as manuals mainly for lubrication recommendations ect.

    Anbody got any good sources for manuls ect.......for German machines............in english.

    Anybody got any experience with a 850H



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    850H kloppResized_20191112_124303.jpg

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    Geeess that's a big shaper!

    Looks in good nic too. Good luck finding a manual. Surely there must be some out there...

    Simon
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    Very nice shaper. Automatic downfeed too

    I've got its (non hydraulic) baby brother - the 350 model.

    Klopp still exist, and when I enquired around 18 months ago they could copy the German version of the manual and send to me for mine. From memory they wanted about 100 Euro's to do it. I guess it was going to be someone for a couple of hours physically copying etc so not entirely unreasonable, but more than I was prepared to pay. Mine is a lot simpler as its just a standard friction drive model (not hydraulic) so figured I could get away without the manual.

    Here's a link to an old post on Practical Machinist where somebody supposedly had all the manuals. Not sure how legit it is, and from what I can tell he never uploaded any to the PM manuals library. I haven't tried emailing the address.
    https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...hapers-233344/



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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Oxxandbert thanks a tonne for those 2 pointers

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    I have used google translate on my phone to translate manuals a few times, and it works pretty well. might be worth looking into if you only have a German manual.

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    Thanks for that idea, unfortunately no paperwork at all come with it

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    Passion-Usinages is a great resource for machine manuals, particularly from European manufacturers. Despite being a French site many of the manuals have English versions available:

    These links have some info for your 850 and manuals for the smaller machines:

    https://passion-usinages.forumgratui...ighlight=klopp
    https://passion-usinages.forumgratui...ighlight=klopp

    Not in English but as mentioned google translate is your friend.

    Another site worth checking out for help with Euro gear is zerspanungsbude:

    https://forum.zerspanungsbude.net/portal

    This is a German site but members are very helpful and don't mind responding to queries that have been translated (mangled) by google.
    Cheers,
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    Fantastic resources thanks a tonne

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    A factory just down the road from me has one of these exact shapers in it. He has retired but still occasionally goes in. I have used it once and it was pretty impressive, suprisingly squat too.

    I would advise bolting it down, at least at the back as his has a tendency to hop slightly when the stroke reverses and it scares the out of you. The way it's valved means the change of direction is very abrupt.

    Also the power pack motor is pretty serious, his is at least 15 horsepower. The rate his leaks at makes a Morris look pretty oil-tight so I'd get ready to buy a lot of hydraulic oil.

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    congrats on an amazing machine. Well done. Makes mine look very (very) small indeed. Don't be afraid to give it refresh.

    I love the background in your pic - care to update your location so we know where in AU you is? Looks like that could be sugar cane out back, but the distant trees seem not to suggest north QLD.

    Greg.

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    Re caskworrior, yeah that powerpak motor is pretty serious. Unreal to hear that you have run one local to you. I might be needing some pointers soon. Still sorting power supply problems atm.

    Looks much the same as a mechanical shaper to run.

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    Re Greg, you are correct its north qld and that is sugar cane. The tree line is a creek bank.

    That's not my shed by the way that is just where I unloaded it at a mates.

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