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  1. #16
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    If you’re using a tail gate lift and your machines are on wheels make sure you either strap the machine to the platform or lift it and place timbers under it to render the wheels inoperable. Tail gate lifts flex under load and if not secured your machine will roll off the back.
    I used to work for a large Telco, so many people were nearly flattened by pallets of batteries rolling off the lift backs because they constantly forgot to lower them off the wheels of the pallet jack that the company ultimately banned the use of lift backs. At the point where a crane lift becomes a safer option you have to take notice.

    Best of luck with your move

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    Quote Originally Posted by racingtadpole View Post
    If you’re using a tail gate lift and your machines are on wheels make sure you either strap the machine to the platform or lift it and place timbers under it to render the wheels inoperable. Tail gate lifts flex under load and if not secured your machine will roll off the back.
    I used to work for a large Telco, so many people were nearly flattened by pallets of batteries rolling off the lift backs because they constantly forgot to lower them off the wheels of the pallet jack that the company ultimately banned the use of lift backs. At the point where a crane lift becomes a safer option you have to take notice.

    Best of luck with your move
    Agree, I used to work building tailgate lifts and I moved here and hired a new medium rigid truck with the 2 part fold out tailgate lifter (the worst type)

    While it was fine for the shapers etc with supporting them well and keeping them close in to the truck, the mill, lathe and 2m longx1.7m high toolbox and several other things went on my trailer and Ute.

    I remember getting the toolbox on the ramp, then after just a touch of a button I decided against it because of the flex, just to much money to loose and have seen others deviated over loosing gear after falling off tailgate lifts.
    All my gear got here without anything broken or damaged.
    I agree a crane or gantry are the best way for heavier items.
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    Here's a piccie of the frame/stand I use to move my lathe (500+kg) without any issues at all....I have welded on the casters as about to move mine soon..but they can be easily removed later on.....coincidentally, I have made a few of these to move most of my other shed stuff (drill presses, metal cupboards, saws etc) and they usually stay on them to get off the concrete floor which is prone to moisture. Those machines that require more precision then remove the casters and bolt to the floor - dampness through the concrete floor is an issue in my realm so I like an air gap under everything

    Can see the mounting holes for the head and tail stock bolts....only need to be reasonably secure hence reason one hole only in tail stock end. The cross piece with the two holes is the weightier end where the head stock locates...that needs securing. I use bolts to fix it to the cradle/frame (not shown)

    As previously mentioned when you put it in a trailer whatever just sit it on blocks to lift the casters clear that way it won't roll around and you don't rely on caster locks - I have several pieces of old red gum fence post which is 6"x6" cut to length - they sit crossways underneath for travel (ok I'm old and don't speak millinguish) they are perfectly good and mean it will not move at all.....naturally you tie it down for shipment as you certainly don't want it coming through the back window of the ute when you stop suddenly for any mobility scooters...


    Hope that explains how I move mine....
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    Not sure if it was you years ago, that had a larger 540 lathe delivered and the shipping company dropped it midway, then realized the size of it and went for a smaller one?
    Don't won't that happening again to anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barkersegg View Post
    Here's a piccie of the frame/stand I use to move my lathe (500+kg) without any issues at all....I have welded on the casters as about to move mine soon..but they can be easily removed later on.....coincidentally, I have made a few of these to move most of my other shed stuff (drill presses, metal cupboards, saws etc) and they usually stay on them to get off the concrete floor which is prone to moisture. Those machines that require more precision then remove the casters and bolt to the floor - dampness through the concrete floor is an issue in my realm so I like an air gap under everything

    Can see the mounting holes for the head and tail stock bolts....only need to be reasonably secure hence reason one hole only in tail stock end. The cross piece with the two holes is the weightier end where the head stock locates...that needs securing. I use bolts to fix it to the cradle/frame (not shown)

    As previously mentioned when you put it in a trailer whatever just sit it on blocks to lift the casters clear that way it won't roll around and you don't rely on caster locks - I have several pieces of old red gum fence post which is 6"x6" cut to length - they sit crossways underneath for travel (ok I'm old and don't speak millinguish) they are perfectly good and mean it will not move at all.....naturally you tie it down for shipment as you certainly don't want it coming through the back window of the ute when you stop suddenly for any mobility scooters...


    Hope that explains how I move mine....
    .Moveable Stand.jpg
    It does...thanks.
    Will have to be a dolly I think. I moved the Lathe into the shed hanging from a Engine Crane and it was not good. Easy to get a good swing up.
    Will drive to the house this weekend and make a plan. (50 km away.)
    Time is my main problem....lol

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    Glad it gave you the general idea....sprayed mine silver rust preserving to tart it up a bit - I occasionally use it for cupboards and drawer sets when I want to move them around without emptying the contents..my engine hoist can go 2t (well it says it in big white letters so it much be correct - it's just near the Made in China tag so I know it's a high precision piece of engineering....)

    Think heaviest I've moved on the frame would be well over 700kgs without any problems other than trying to stop it with the steel toe caps when it runs down a slope...I would urge spend the kopecks on good quality casters and they will see you out.......rated higher than what you intend to put on it.....

    Just one other point....if your lathe is on the narrow type it's probably best to make the stand few inches wider that the actual lathe so you give it some rigidity cross ways...saves toppling over....good luck and as usual lots of pictures for the audience please.......Lee

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    Old thread update.....
    I finally got to prepare my Lathe and Mill to move to my new home.....

    Decided to use pallets and I found a cheap pallet Trolley locally, so decided to bite the bullet and get it.
    Not sure how often I will use it, but I definately willl need to twice!.....lol

    I scrounged a couple of pallets from a fencing contractor mate and armed with my engine crane went to work.

    First problem was the pallets were too wide to get them under the load, so I had to cut them down with a circular saw.

    They are a little short for a 300 x 900mm lathe as well, but it works.

    I'm aware that this is not the best sollution, but it will have to do this time. Since pics taken I have strapped them to the pallets. They won't move.

    Next time I will construct custom pallets for each machine.

    Steve
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    I wished I had of taken pictures when I moved all my crap.
    2 ton engine crane, 2 pallet jacks, dismantled the mill so didn't need to use the 3.6m high gantry.
    All arrived safe and well
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    Good to hear Dave.
    I hope I have the same result....

    Main reason for the pics was to assure the Mrs I hadn't been squished moving them...lol

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    The move went ok.....not perfect, but ok.
    If I had the time again, I would fabricate custom Pallets for each machine.
    Trouble is you won't want to throw them out after using and you wil ahve to store them for the rest of your life' just in case' you want to move them again......

    The pallets were not really strong enough. I would use more cross beams, use a thick ply top and screw locating blocks on top to stop the machines from moving.

    Also would have to bias the lifting points toward the Lathe Headstock as that is where the COG is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    The move went ok.....not perfect, but ok.
    If I had the time again, I would fabricate custom Pallets for each machine.
    Trouble is you won't want to throw them out after using and you wil ahve to store them for the rest of your life' just in case' you want to move them again......

    The pallets were not really strong enough. I would use more cross beams, use a thick ply top and screw locating blocks on top to stop the machines from moving.

    Also would have to bias the lifting points toward the Lathe Headstock as that is where the COG is.
    Really great to hear everything went well, and hopefully your not moving to again to soon.

    I never used any pallets, just the engine crane and 2000kg straps to sucure them on the Ute or trailer. The pallet jacks where just to move them into position for either the lift or positioning.
    Once there balanced on the engine crane there not going anywhere.
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