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    Quote Originally Posted by StrayAlien View Post
    "without pictures, it didn't happen" )
    I know. I took a photo after the auction but it's so blurry I'm embarrassed to even put it on here. Hopefully I will have it home by the end of the week and then there will be pictures

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    Default The Mars has landed

    I got the planer home today. The owner used the old shop crane to load it onto a tilt tray truck.

    There was a 26 inch Butler shaper loaded onto a truck for a trip south. That gave the old crane a bit of a workout. It looked to be a bit heavier than the planer.

    Here's some pictures

    Planer1.jpgPlaner2.jpgPlaner3.jpg

    Tomorrow I will remove the motorized spindle, the hydraulic hoses and motor and begin the cleanup.

    Thankfully I also got the clapper box.

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    More photos please when you get a chance.




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    The good, the bad and the ugly.

    OK so ugly is probably a bit unfair but the spindle assembly and all the add on hydraulics have been removed although the motor and gearbox may live on as the new table drive. (thanks R.C)

    shaper6.jpg

    The bad. Well I already knew that all the original reversing mechanism was gone. I can't keep the drive system at all original so full electric drive with motor reversing it is. There is some wear on the ways. Not too concerned about it at this time.
    planer9.jpgplaner7.jpgplaner5.jpg

    The good. Freed up the auto feed selectors although up/down is a bit crunchy as if the bevel gear inside the tool head is out of mesh.
    planer8.jpg


    For now I think a good clean up and oiling. Get it into a better position in the shed. It will then have to wait for power to the shed and the fitting of an electric drive.

    It could be a while before we see some chips.

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    I see what you mean about the gear knob you pull off and put in on the other shaft to power feed either cross or down.

    It makes you wonder if there is another gear with a knob on it for that second gear. Then is that thing on the end of the shaft just packing or does it have a purpose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    I see what you mean about the gear knob you pull off and put in on the other shaft to power feed either cross or down.

    It makes you wonder if there is another gear with a knob on it for that second gear. Then is that thing on the end of the shaft just packing or does it have a purpose?
    The second gear is used for the ratchet and pawl mechanism. That's the thing on the end of the shaft. Picture could have made it a bit clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YBAF View Post


    More photos please when you get a chance.




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    We need photo's of you mill. I cannot recall ever seeing a Mars milling machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuzziJohn View Post
    The second gear is used for the ratchet and pawl mechanism. That's the thing on the end of the shaft. Picture could have made it a bit clearer.
    I think I get it now. The two gears free wheel on that shaft.

    When the cross rail goes up and down does the pawl mechanism spin round as the shaft it is pinned to turns from moving up the rack?

    I think I worked out how the drive mechanism was supposed to work. There was probably two sets of two pulleys on that shaft.

    In each set, one was an idler and one was a drive. They may or may not have been the same size. There would have been two belts, one of which would have been crossed so it ran a pulley backwards. at any one time one belt would have been on a drive pulley and the other on an idler pulley. The reversing mechanism simply moved the belts so one moved from drive to idler, and the other moved from idler to drive.

    I see some planers have different sized pulleys to get a faster reverse and others have a gearbox on top which thew two belts come down from that has a reverse shaft so no need to cross the belt.
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    Hi,

    I'm watching with interest. I must confess to knowing very little about metal planners. I see that they have a similar cutting action to a shaper except the bed moves instead. When it comes to producing flat surfaces, are planners considered superior to milling machines?

    Simon
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    Default Mill pics.

    Mars mill 2.JPGMars mill.JPG
    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    We need photo's of you mill. I cannot recall ever seeing a Mars milling machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post

    I think I worked out how the drive mechanism was supposed to work. There was probably two sets of two pulleys on that shaft.

    In each set, one was an idler and one was a drive. They may or may not have been the same size. There would have been two belts, one of which would have been crossed so it ran a pulley backwards. at any one time one belt would have been on a drive pulley and the other on an idler pulley. The reversing mechanism simply moved the belts so one moved from drive to idler, and the other moved from idler to drive.

    I see some planers have different sized pulleys to get a faster reverse and others have a gearbox on top which thew two belts come down from that has a reverse shaft so no need to cross the belt.
    The picture in post 13 shows multiple pulleys on the shaft. I was expecting some rotation reversal in the planer itself.
    I hadn't considered a crossed over belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonl View Post
    Hi,

    I'm watching with interest. I must confess to knowing very little about metal planners. I see that they have a similar cutting action to a shaper except the bed moves instead. When it comes to producing flat surfaces, are planners considered superior to milling machines?

    Simon
    Hi Simon. I don't know about planers being superior. I think most people would say slower and obsolete. I'm fortunate to just have enough space for it so I thought why not.

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    I continued with the clean up today.

    I was a little surprised at the casting quality. While it generally looks to be excellent, the original owner may have looked twice at this although almost all the defect was hidden.
    planer11.jpg

    The other thing that caught my attention was the use of hex socket screws.
    planer10.jpg

    I always thought the were a later invention. Searching the Trove website shows ads for Unbrako bolts in the late 40s early 50s. You learn something new every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonl View Post
    Hi,

    I'm watching with interest. I must confess to knowing very little about metal planners. I see that they have a similar cutting action to a shaper except the bed moves instead. When it comes to producing flat surfaces, are planners considered superior to milling machines?

    Simon
    Hi Simon
    planers and shapers will always produce a flatter surface than a mill due entirely to the cutting action being lineal rather than rotative. You will find it 'near' impossible to tram the mill head to perfection.
    Plus I love planers and shapers so it's true.

    Phil

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    You just made me laugh out load while at the brew table at work Phil!

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