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  1. #1
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    Default Aboga EM835 or Hercus O mill?

    I have an Aboga EM 835 mill/drill and have the opportunity to swap it for a Hercus O mill.

    If I make the exchange should money change hands? If yes, how much and which way?

    The Hercus mill has the vertical head fitted and is in pristine condition. There's no vice or horizontal arbor.

    The Aboga is in good nick too with heavy duty vice. I also have a special VFD, 240V single phase to 415V 3 phase which the new owner may not need.

    Ken

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    Hey Ken, I reckon he should give you a couple of slabs and do the delivery and pick up 😆

    Cheers, shed

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    The decision is up too you. I would swap it for the hercus as you seem to have a love for them and cash could also change hands depending on what you paid for the unit. I Would really love to buy the VFD off you if the deal goes that way.
    BETTER TO HAVE TOOLS YOU DON'T NEED THAN TO NEED TOOLS YOU DON'T HAVE

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    I'd keep the Arboga myself. If you're going to trade, he should definitely pay you.

    PDW

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    In my opinion neither are good mills but the arboga is a fantastic drill, I would keep that and not bother with the O mill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caskwarrior View Post
    In my opinion neither are good mills but the arboga is a fantastic drill, I would keep that and not bother with the O mill.
    Agree. Even if you're a model maker the Hercus doesn't have much going for it. The vertical head is geared drive and has low maximum speed plus no quill. Also not a lot of Z space and the build quality is typical Hercus - better than the run of Chinese imports but certainly not anything to boast about. The Arboga is more an excellent drill fitted with an X-Y table and a spindle lock to retain tooling so you can do some milling.

    I'd like one of those Arboga mill-drills and I'd sell my current Chinese drill press. I already have an Arboga radial arm drill so I know what the build quality is like.

    PDW

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    It would seem without a quill, the O mill's capabilities are very much limited.

    How would drilling holes be achieved and what about tapping?

    Were there ways around these limitations?

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by neksmerj View Post
    It would seem without a quill, the O mill's capabilities are very much limited.

    How would drilling holes be achieved and what about tapping?

    Were there ways around these limitations?

    Ken
    Yep. Buy a drill press..... not trying to be funny, if your only mill is a Hercus O type with VH, you're going to be limited.

    You *can* drill holes by feeding up on the knee but I'd advise buying small drill bits in bulk because you won't have the spindle speed or sensitive feed/feel to prevent breakages.

    The O types aren't bad as small horizontal mills within their work envelope but they're hopeless at drilling & tapping. A $300 Chinese drill press is way better.

    If you trade the Arboga for the O type I predict that you will regret it, and quite soon too.

    PDW

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    Hi Ken,

    I will have to climb aboard the Keep the Arboga bandwagon. As you know, I don't have the disregard others have for Hercus products, but owning and using a No.O, I am aware of its limitations. The Swede would prove a more versatile machine.

    Bob.

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    HI,

    As another Hercus mill owner I agree with overall sentiment, stick with the Arboga. I like my Hercus but it sure has its limitations. I'm looking at upgrading to a Hafco drill mill in the future.

    Ben.

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    Not that im looking to sell, but what would a No.0 with VFD fitted and in very good condition be worth? Also has dividing head and tail stock, plus horizontal bar.

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