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    Back in 2007, on this very forum, I submitted a post on a miniature marking gauge that I designed and made.

    Mini lathe/mill project No.4 Marking gauge

    This evening I came across a forum I've never heard of, and to my surprise, saw a post where the forum member showed some pictures of a miniature marking gauge that he designed. Bull dust, it's an almost perfect copy of mine done in 2007.

    Marking gauce with micro adjustment

    What action should I take, if any

    I reckon if this happened to you, you'd be pee'd off too.

    Ken

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    Ken

    Put your link from your thread above in the post on the other forum.

    JohnQ

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    Hi Ken, I know how you feel. About 20 years ago I came up with an idea of a slide to help with getting stuff out of the back of 4WDs, made a few and gave them away for people to test/destroy. Ended up making them by the 100 every couple of months for Engel Fridges, when I sold my business in 2003 there were 14 different places making them.
    I look at it this way, to copy some ones work/idea is a complement, as they're to stupid to come up with an idea of their own.
    Nice work by the way
    Kryn
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    Very disappointing when your ideas are blatantly ripped off and claimed to be their own.

    JohnQ, I did put a link in the other forum. I doubt anything will happen.

    Ken

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    well dont look at his FB page then

    https://www.facebook.com/homemadetoolsau/?ref=profile
    Though it's over 12 months old.

    Not sure what he is playing at

    Stuart

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    Unfortunately plagiarism has been around since man first painted on a cave wall. The internet just makes it easier for people to plagiarise and to be caught out doing that. Disregard and move on from the a'holes, concentrate on the good people. Quite a few of whom inhabit this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neksmerj View Post

    I reckon if this happened to you, you'd be pee'd off too.

    Ken

    Check this out then Ken, you well may be more peed off!

    Homemade Marking Gauge

    Above is the url for Kens marking gauge project posted by Ken to Projects in Metal then "acquired" by Homemadetools and shamelessly nicked copied by the plagiarist and claimed as his own. The evidence is there on Homemadetools right down to the photos and Kens drawings. Its pretty easy to"design" from that that.

    At least you got a, mention there, Ken.

    Cheers

    Grahame

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    That's very disappointing but not totally surprising. Unless you registered the design and patented it then it's open slather. I must say that I have copied many a design from other people and other forums using google searches but I would never claim the design to be my own. If someone is smart enough to come up with a great design that helps me out then I'm more than happy to to openly give them the credit AND thank them for a great design!

    Feel free to openly shame these people and make them look like dicks, while knowing that they obviously consider you a superior machinist that they would not even try to match!

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    i called him a liar on his facebook link ...lol
    he didnt draw that in cad from a sketch drawn on a scrap piece of paper. (as he says on that web link)

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    I can't see any recourse beyond some social networking pressure, forcing him to admit he stole the design.

    Could be worse, could be some Chinese company making rip-off copies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    I can't see any recourse beyond some social networking pressure, forcing him to admit he stole the design.

    Could be worse, could be some Chinese company making rip-off copies.
    And probably very poor copies at that. When I was making the slides for Engel, they sent one to China to copy, they came in OK with a decent price, but the quality wasn't there, the runners didn't hold up to our "Off Road Conditions, they fell to pieces in a very short time.
    Kryn
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    Ken. you have some good mates on here!!! I just went to the link and read Baron J and our Mr Hoval giving a broadside blast and leaving no prisoners.
    I have to admit that I have "borrowed" designs from others to make something for my own use. I have never said they were my designs/ideas when I get comments. This guy is definitely out of order.
    Just do it!

    Kind regards Rod

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    Kryn,
    Good old Engel guess there was no way they would have given you the rewards. I made my own 60 ltr fridge, 50 mm polyurethane insulation, stainless liner in and stainless outer skin. Danfos comp. Made up a slide with a bunch of bearings from a supplier that had a heap that were marginally out of spec on the inner bore.

    Well done.

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    I went back to "his forum" and added more comments.

    Thanks for all the above support.

    Ken

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    Ken, make sure you are stern with the right person! I suspect your post on FB missed that issue by 'this much'...
    Cheers, Joe
    retired - less energy, more time to contemplate projects and more shed time....

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