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27th Apr 2016, 11:06 PM #1Product designer retired
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I'm pee'd off
Back in 2007, on this very forum, I submitted a post on a miniature marking gauge that I designed and made.
Mini lathe/mill project No.4 Marking gauge
This evening I came across a forum I've never heard of, and to my surprise, saw a post where the forum member showed some pictures of a miniature marking gauge that he designed. Bull dust, it's an almost perfect copy of mine done in 2007.
Marking gauce with micro adjustment
What action should I take, if any
I reckon if this happened to you, you'd be pee'd off too.
Ken
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27th Apr 2016, 11:45 PM #2Senior Member
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Ken
Put your link from your thread above in the post on the other forum.
JohnQ
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27th Apr 2016, 11:46 PM #3Most Valued Member
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Hi Ken, I know how you feel. About 20 years ago I came up with an idea of a slide to help with getting stuff out of the back of 4WDs, made a few and gave them away for people to test/destroy. Ended up making them by the 100 every couple of months for Engel Fridges, when I sold my business in 2003 there were 14 different places making them.
I look at it this way, to copy some ones work/idea is a complement, as they're to stupid to come up with an idea of their own.
Nice work by the way
KrynTo grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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27th Apr 2016, 11:56 PM #4Product designer retired
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Very disappointing when your ideas are blatantly ripped off and claimed to be their own.
JohnQ, I did put a link in the other forum. I doubt anything will happen.
Ken
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28th Apr 2016, 12:55 AM #5Most Valued Member
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well dont look at his FB page then
https://www.facebook.com/homemadetoolsau/?ref=profile
Though it's over 12 months old.
Not sure what he is playing at
Stuart
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28th Apr 2016, 07:57 AM #6Diamond Member
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Unfortunately plagiarism has been around since man first painted on a cave wall. The internet just makes it easier for people to plagiarise and to be caught out doing that. Disregard and move on from the a'holes, concentrate on the good people. Quite a few of whom inhabit this forum.
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28th Apr 2016, 10:07 AM #7
Check this out then Ken, you well may be more peed off!
Homemade Marking Gauge
Above is the url for Kens marking gauge project posted by Ken to Projects in Metal then "acquired" by Homemadetools and shamelessly nicked copied by the plagiarist and claimed as his own. The evidence is there on Homemadetools right down to the photos and Kens drawings. Its pretty easy to"design" from that that.
At least you got a, mention there, Ken.
Cheers
Grahame
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28th Apr 2016, 02:53 PM #8Most Valued Member
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That's very disappointing but not totally surprising. Unless you registered the design and patented it then it's open slather. I must say that I have copied many a design from other people and other forums using google searches but I would never claim the design to be my own. If someone is smart enough to come up with a great design that helps me out then I'm more than happy to to openly give them the credit AND thank them for a great design!
Feel free to openly shame these people and make them look like dicks, while knowing that they obviously consider you a superior machinist that they would not even try to match!
Simon
SimonGirl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.
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28th Apr 2016, 03:49 PM #9Most Valued Member
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i called him a liar on his facebook link ...lol
he didnt draw that in cad from a sketch drawn on a scrap piece of paper. (as he says on that web link)
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28th Apr 2016, 05:07 PM #10
I can't see any recourse beyond some social networking pressure, forcing him to admit he stole the design.
Could be worse, could be some Chinese company making rip-off copies.
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28th Apr 2016, 05:53 PM #11Most Valued Member
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And probably very poor copies at that. When I was making the slides for Engel, they sent one to China to copy, they came in OK with a decent price, but the quality wasn't there, the runners didn't hold up to our "Off Road Conditions, they fell to pieces in a very short time.
KrynTo grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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28th Apr 2016, 07:23 PM #12
Ken. you have some good mates on here!!! I just went to the link and read Baron J and our Mr Hoval giving a broadside blast and leaving no prisoners.
I have to admit that I have "borrowed" designs from others to make something for my own use. I have never said they were my designs/ideas when I get comments. This guy is definitely out of order.Just do it!
Kind regards Rod
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28th Apr 2016, 08:59 PM #13Senior Member
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Kryn,
Good old Engel guess there was no way they would have given you the rewards. I made my own 60 ltr fridge, 50 mm polyurethane insulation, stainless liner in and stainless outer skin. Danfos comp. Made up a slide with a bunch of bearings from a supplier that had a heap that were marginally out of spec on the inner bore.
Well done.
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28th Apr 2016, 10:32 PM #14Product designer retired
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I went back to "his forum" and added more comments.
Thanks for all the above support.
Ken
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28th Apr 2016, 10:41 PM #15
Ken, make sure you are stern with the right person! I suspect your post on FB missed that issue by 'this much'...
Cheers, Joe
retired - less energy, more time to contemplate projects and more shed time....