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    Default Herbert High Speed Bench Drill restoration

    After owning a cheap pedestal drill and not being happy with it I set about getting a bench drill like the Waldown NH-3. I missed quite a few at auction but I did find this drill close to home. The machine is an Alfred Herbert "B" type bench drill that has a collet chuck and a speed range from 3000 to18000 rpm. The motor is a three phase two pole unit with special balancing and run at 2850 rpm. The drive pulleys are crowned and suit a flat belt. I sold the Chinese drill and am now restoring the Herbert to include new electrics and a single phase to three phase VSD. It has taken a few months to start but I am underway now.

    regards mgtoolmaker
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    Watching with interest, I have the Waldown equivalent on my "to be restored" list.

    Ray

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    Hi,
    I recently brought the same drill but with a 3 axis drilling jig. It only has the intermediate speed pulley so will be interested to see any pictures/measurements of your pulley system. Hopefully will collect the drill when back in Sydney in a couple weeks.
    Will watch your restoration with interest.
    Mark

    Herbert B High Speed Drill Press PCB Riser AND 3 Axis Fixture 9000 RPM | eBay

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    Nice one! Will watch proress with interest too.
    Cheers, Joe
    again completely retired - more time to contemplate projects and spend more shed time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    Watching with interest, I have the Waldown equivalent on my "to be restored" list.

    Ray
    so do I but its missing a few bits n pieces....got any spares that you dont want...like a spindle and all other bits for and around that area...whats it worth without the spindle?...mine not yours

    Yep I will be watching also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    so do I but its missing a few bits n pieces....got any spares that you dont want...like a spindle and all other bits for and around that area...whats it worth without the spindle?...mine not yours

    Yep I will be watching also.
    Could you show us a photo of what you've got - then we can keep our eyes open for the missing bits. Or have you done so already and I've missed it?
    Cheers, Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Could you show us a photo of what you've got - then we can keep our eyes open for the missing bits. Or have you done so already and I've missed it?
    there is a photo somewhere in WWF, but not sure where

    I will get some more and post.

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    ' this the one you are talking about?
    http://www.woodworkforums.com/136246...ml#post1327234
    Cheers, Joe
    again completely retired - more time to contemplate projects and spend more shed time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    ' this the one you are talking about?
    http://www.woodworkforums.com/136246...ml#post1327234
    no Joe..its a little high speed unit (NH3 aint they?)
    I picked it up from a tafe college...obviously no one got around to fixing it after the kids wrecked it I'd say...and then they lost the bits for it..

    It looks almost brand new

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtoolmaker View Post
    After owning a cheap pedestal drill and not being happy with it I set about getting a bench drill like the Waldown NH-3. I missed quite a few at auction but I did find this drill close to home. The machine is an Alfred Herbert "B" type bench drill that has a collet chuck and a speed range from 3000 to18000 rpm. The motor is a three phase two pole unit with special balancing and run at 2850 rpm. The drive pulleys are crowned and suit a flat belt. I sold the Chinese drill and am now restoring the Herbert to include new electrics and a single phase to three phase VSD. It has taken a few months to start but I am underway now.

    regards mgtoolmaker
    I have the same drill, it's in almost perfect condition. All I needed to get was a chuck key. I think even the globe still worked. All I was missing was the knob for the switch and any spare pulleys. Once you drill a 1/8" hole on this girl in to a piece of tool steel you will wonder why you ever bother using any other drill.

    Oh I miss quality tools like Herbert made?

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    Default Progress report and spare parts

    So to progress,

    Finding spare parts for Herbert drills is easy, you just contact the Paul and in a few emails, you will have hat you need. For the Type 'B' virtually every part can be purchased. I will caution parts are not cheap so you have to remind yourself that this is a machine that would cost at least $10k if it was new and in today's money. sales@herberttooling.com is the email to get parts and prices and advice for your Herbert drill project.

    Disassembly - the drill is totally in bits now and the 50 year old dry grease as been cleaned out of the bearings. Things to watch for are left and right hand threads holding bits in place, hidden pins holding things in place and being organised. I have used zip lock bags to store the sub assemblies. There is no rust in mine and little if any wear so the pin spanners I made worked. Kerosene and WD-40 were used as cleaners.

    Body work and paint - my secret recipe of car cutting compound, nylon scourer and elbow grease. The original is still good

    Electrics -I have a Powerflex 4M single phase in, three phase out VSD ready to use, all wiring will be new

    Things to buy, I have to get some low temp,high speed grease, this is because at 18000rpm it will need it. I am using SKF LGLT-2 which I can get near home.

    As I clean I will photo parts for the thread. hopefullyunderside of the drill attached

    regard mgtoomaker
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    Default Here is the spare parts list

    Thought you may like to see the spare parts list so here it is,

    regards mgtoolmaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtoolmaker View Post
    Thought you may like to see the spare parts list so here it is,

    regards mgtoolmaker

    Hi,
    Thanks for the parts list. Do you have the whole document as I also have the Type V bench drill as well as the type B and it would be interesting to see the whole thing. Did you price any new pulleys or belts for the type B when you were talking to Herbert as I don't have any belts and only the intermediate pulley.
    Thanks
    Mark

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    Default Parts list and pricing

    Hello MarkGray,

    If you send an email to this address sales@herberttooling.com

    the good folk at Herbert will price things for you. The medium pulley for the Type B was GBP98 and the small one is GBP80 when I priced them.

    I do not have the compete book, I am sure if you ask Herbert they may be able to scan that section for you,

    bet regards mgtoolmaker

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    Default Hello from Ukraine.

    Hello from Ukraine.
    To be continued?
    I am interested in the details, detailed photos.
    Yesterday bought this machine.

    Special need in it, but I liked it.

    A lot of problems.
    The main problem - there is no spindle.


    English I do not know - I write through the translator.
    I hope for your understanding.

    What is there for engine costs - speed and power?
    And interests - in what year these machines were produced?

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