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    Default 4 1\2 inch 6 tpi uns thread caculations...opps wrong size

    hi all. can some one please help me out and give me the
    the minor dia for an internal 4 1\2 6tpi uns thread.

    I haven't got any of my books here. I'd like to make a test ring.
    for the thread on some L0 safety taper backing plates i have to make/
    making.
    have fun
    aaron

    im not shore how i got that wrong so ive edited above post its 4 1/2 not 2 1/2 uns 6tpi.
    hopfully phil or some one notices.

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    Hi Aaron,
    The minor Diameter is 2.2834" for general purpose and
    2.3016" for close tolerance

    Phil

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    I got a slightly different answer from here: http://theoreticalmachinist.com/Thre...dImperial.aspx
    That being 2.32 - 2.35 ish. If I did it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    I got a slightly different answer from here: http://theoreticalmachinist.com/Thre...dImperial.aspx
    That being 2.32 - 2.35 ish. If I did it right.
    Apologies Bryan, I was editing.

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    Shopcalc gives 2.365" for a 75% contact. Thats as a sugested "tapping drill" size.

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    Default thread calcs

    hi again. plil bryan and ew thanks.
    the last few times I've cut internal threads. i wasn't happy with the result.
    a bit like a c**k in a shirt sleeve.
    So i think ill go for close tolarance size. Its meant to be a thread gauge of sorts
    so a close fit would be appropriate.
    thanks again
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    Apologies Aaron,
    I have given you external thread minor Diameters.
    Close tolerance internal thread will be 2.3196"

    Phil

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    Hi Aaron, the only thing I can find is a formula for drill sizes for thread cutting taps.

    ........................................................................... ......% of full thread
    Drill size = basic major dia. of thread 4.5" minus .0130 X ---------------- = Drill size
    ................................................................................ .threads per inch
    example: to find tapping drill size
    for 1/4"- 20 with 75% thread
    ........................................75
    Drill size = .2500 - .0130 X --- = .2010 inches
    .......................................20
    This is taken from the Engineers Black Book 1st edition
    Hope this helps
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    Default thread formulas

    im not shore what formulas ive been using and haven't been able to find
    a suitable online calculator.
    kb pens thanks for that one but it doesn't seem to be right
    i get 59.83 ????
    ill have another look
    bryan that calculator only goes to 4"
    aaron

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    I've written a spreadsheet for thread calculations. If anyone is interested I'll attach it for downloading.

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    This is what i have been using, will go as big as you want. http://home.scarlet.be/mini-draaien-...rogram-01.html

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    thanks guys. ive got a mac.. thanks gene.
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    Try 4.284"

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    I think if Aaron bores to 4.284" then threads the for May be just a tiny bit too loose.....
    But what would I know, my answer came from a computer program.
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    From Machinery's Handbook - 4.320 to 4.3396 for class 3B.
    All you have to do is use dimensions for any 6 tpi UN thread.

    Lex.

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