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    BTW - when Bob came around this is what was on my bench.
    It's definitely not for the faint hearted.
    When I figure out what I'm doing I'll post some more info on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    A dentist's mirror and a depth vernier gave me some confidence.
    You went and took all the sport out of it!

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    Oh Bob.... why oh why did you open the connections of the three red cables?
    You KNOW what THEY are for..... You were supposed to look for and find the OTHER end of the coils, the thee wires WITHOUT cables going in...... and put some there.
    I bet it's the fatter spagetti tube bent over the outside of the coils at about 2 O'clock in the last picture.....
    Now you have to just go and close those three connections again and truss them up without wrecking anything.....
    Cheers, Joe
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    Hi Joe,

    That's another motor I think? I agree with your suggestion that the fat wire bundle at 2 o'clock looks a possible candidate.

    Ray

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    God, I completely missed that Ray
    I thought Bob had made a mess off the little workhead motor.
    Cheers, Joe
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    OK Bob, check out the circled area in the workhead motor and see if the spot the arrow points at is a folded over open end of a fibre tuube tha has three smaller tubes going into it at the other end. It looks a likely candidate to me.
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    Default No. Not the tiddler!

    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Oh Bob.... why oh why did you open the connections of the three red cables?
    You KNOW what THEY are for..... You were supposed to look for and find the OTHER end of the coils, the thee wires WITHOUT cables going in...... and put some there.
    I bet it's the fatter spagetti tube bent over the outside of the coils at about 2 O'clock in the last picture.....
    Now you have to just go and close those three connections again and truss them up without wrecking anything.....
    That's a biggish , about 300mm diameter, Italian double delta motor Bob was delving into when I dropped in.

    I'll have a close look at the connections when the sun comes up. I'll also post some photos before I tuck in with the scalpel.

    Bob.

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    this is starting to look scarry

    I'd be thinking..... its now time to take it to the motor rewinders....

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    this is starting to look scarry

    I'd be thinking..... its now time to take it to the motor rewinders....
    Which donk RQ, Bob's Italian or mine?

    BT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    Which donk RQ, Bob's Italian or mine?

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    does it matter...both deserve the rewinders...just for the warranty bit...or if nothing else, if it fails, one can blame them!!

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    I doubt the word failure is even in both bobs' vocabulary.
    On my phone so please insert a smiley.

    Phil

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    Bob,
    I see you have trued up the outside of the motor casing when you parted the end. Do you intend to machine a collar or are you going to turn up a new end and fit somehow?
    Cheers,
    Rod

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    does it matter...both deserve the rewinders...just for the warranty bit...or if nothing else, if it fails, one can blame them!!
    Warranty? Have a look at the photos below. Any half decent motor rewinder would laugh at me if I took it in to them.

    I found that motor on a heap of scrap metal, it had no fan and the rotor was not turning. It looked like a reasonably HD motor and I thought I might be able to at least get the bearings out of it. Just for fun I Meggered it and it was fine, opened it up (had to belt the rotor a couple of times with a wooden mallet to get it out). Bearings were fine and corrosion was all surface stuff. Put the rusty rotor on a lathe and sanded the rust off. Blew out the dust and reassembled, still Meggering OK, I added an external old 240V computer fan to it, connected it up and it runs fine. It's one of the quietest and coolest motors in my collection so it's sort of become a bit of a test motor.

    Here I've added 3 wires to the common ∆ points and stitched it back up again - it really does feel like performing a medical operation.


    And (with new camera battery charger operating) loosened bits and pieces HT siliconed into place.
    It has obviously sat in a bath of rusty water for some time.
    I'm not putting this motor on any machine, just using it as a bit of a test motor to try different things out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post
    I doubt the word failure is even in both bobs' vocabulary.
    On my phone so please insert a smiley.

    Phil
    A failure represents an opportunity to learn something useful from unexpected results.

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    Default I reckon I found the star point.

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    I could be wrong. What do you blokes think?

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