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  1. #31
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    Default Thanks Guys.

    I am bookmarking all these links pages for later use - so thanks all for putting them up.

    That gold looking titanium nitride plating looks wonderful! I have a set of drill bits with that plating on them and it never even occurred to me to try and use the same stuff.

    I guess my mind must be coasting in neutral.

    I'm not fixated on gold, brass, bronze (and now titanium Nitride) etc, it's just whatever I can find available to make it easy (and fun) I guess.

    It will depend a bit on what Bob wants to do (or not) at the end of the day... the aim is to have some fun - life being about the journey and not the destination.

    I just want something that gives me enjoyment and satisfaction in being "involved" in it's creation, every time I use it & reminds me of the guy who helped out and made it for / with me.

    I guess I have time to get across all this...its not urgent, I still have a few projects on the go that need finishing yet which should keep me out of trouble as things cool down and I am able to use the shed a bit more without melting like a paraffin candle up there!.

    The blade height adjuster will come in handy for some work I have planned down the track is all.

    It will be ready one day when its ready - I'm in no hurry.

    It will give me time to work this all out.

    The old guy in the UK with that bar stock Phosphor bronze piece on ebay is 81 years old - retired machinist... he actually has a lathe and COULD turn a couple wheels for me to remove all the weight for postage and just post the hand wheel across to save postage costs.

    Problem is his lathe only takes 3&1/2 inch diameter.... so he couldn't mount it to turn it down to size that he can work.... I guess that's probably why he's selling it.

    I'll work this all out eventually.

    A simple question (i thought) has run 2 whole pages - BUT I have learned heaps in the process & for that I am grateful to each and every one of you.

    Thank you one and all gentlemen - sincerely.

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    A bit out of left field, and seeing it is for a woodworking machine, a turned timber wheel with a fairly high gloss finish could be an alternative material. Very cheap, and plenty of turners on this forum could help you out if you haven't got your own lathe.
    Just a matter of using epoxy to hold a suitable nut in a blank, then go for your life.
    Timber could be laminated if there is any concern regarding strength, and the little knob type handle again could be attached with a nut epoxied into the rim.

    Anyway, something to think about.

    Alan...

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    Since you showed the limited edition Benchcrafted bronze wheel, I thought it worth mentioning the other finish they tried.
    This was to give an iron wheel a dark bronze patina in the same way as seasoning a cast iron pan.
    Basically a thin coat of flax seed / raw linseed oil and cooked in the oven (repeat 4 or 5 times).
    Looks good, corrosion resistant and very cost effective: http://benchcrafted.blogspot.com.au/...cast-iron.html

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    Default Brass wheel

    Will this put you out of your saga or is it too big?
    Brass probably off an old globe valve.
    H.
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    Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)

  5. #35
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    Default Thanks CO

    Thanks CO - it looks great however I think it's a tad large for the job at 6 inches unfortunately.
    Somewhere between 3 & 3/4 inches to 4 inches would be the ideal, I am reliably told by the designer.

    Adjusters on the back burn for a a little bit, I've been "redirected" to another "project that just cropped up"...at the moment - soaking up all my time & spare cash unfortunately!



    Self explanatory really - teaching the kids (2 of) to drive and unfortunately a roo decided to commit hari kari... barely a love tap - but just the parts were some $300 this week.... a little paneling ~$500.00 then some paint ~$200 and there's another $1K bites the dust....

    It's "mums shopping trolley car" so me 'n the 2 kids are deep in the doo doo while mum has to walk to the shops (across the road) so that's why ts "become a priority". Happy wife, happy life.

    A more experienced driver at the wheel would likely have missed it altogether... BUT - you only get experience by doing it.

    One day when I'm too old and ornery to drive myself anymore (like next week) the kids will have to drive me around so - it's swings and roundabouts - I have to cop it sweet now, to benefit in the future (hopefully).

    I don't know why but crap like this ALWAYS seems to happen just when I start working on something for ME... and my stuff goes on the back burner.

    The joys of family life I guess.

    Least I will have time to do my homework on the adjuster.

    Just finished putting my rail adjusters on the X31 before the bingle luckily!



    So While I'm making good progress, it's no where near as fast as I'd like and this car repair bidness will just slow it down a tad more.

    This seems to be pretty much how my life goes these days - one step forward and 2 back!.

    I'll get back to the height adjuster & hand wheel soon enough...

    I have a few such projects n the go, that all need finishing now at some point, my height adjustable bench, the Cyclone Dust Extractor, Line the shed walls.

    Sparky was s'posed to come yesterday but he seem sit be lost in transit somewhere.

    If if was raining ... well you get the idea!

    Life's about the journey (not the destination) BobL said!

    I'll get there one day.

    The reward of patience? is patience. (And whoever said that should have been garotted at birth)!

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    I've just found a pair of 5" diameter CI handwheels, one with a 1/2" bore, the other with 5/8". 4" seems small to me if you are applying any sort of force on the screw.

    Pictures if required...

    Michael

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    Default I hear you

    I do hear you.

    The hand wheel gets minimum turns, the height adjuster has a speed nut, so you push the speed nut, and lever the blade up or down to near the height you want - let go of the speed nut and adjust a couple mm or so to final height with the hand wheel....so maybe a turn or two at best.

    With the offset bracket - theres only so much room between the handwheel and adge of the saw bench table... it think it shows it in the pics on page 1 of this thread. The one depicted seems to be smaller than 3 & 3/4 inches... and I sort of figured 4 inches would be about what I can get away with maybe.

    Least that's what I think I've not seen one in the flesh or operated one myself - I;m going just by what I see in the pics, and the drawings links.

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    What size bore does the wheel need to have? If the wheel in the picture in the first post is say just over 3", the threaded rod scales to be around 16mm/ 5/8" diameter, so a 14mm/ 1/2" bore? Still think it is a lot of load for a little wheel.

    Michael

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    Default According to the designer

    According to the designer the bore is 3/8th inch dia.

    Least that's what he thinks.

    You could buy any handle you want…. it just needs to be bored to fit the end of the screw, think that’s 3/8” if I remember correctly.

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    I had a dingle with a roo coming home after 12hr night shift this week. First frontal with this car. Due to the HUUUGE cost of bullbars for this vehicle, it does not have one, so I just drive slower in the tricky spots. There is about 10m from the undergrowth to my car so little chance to do anything. I did get a bit of braking in. End result was a grill smashed into many pieces, a wire to a driving light cut through (cheap soft wire) and another bit of plastic lying on the road which think came from a tray underneath the front of the motor when he/her rolled under. The driving lights did not even get knocked out of alignment. They are little LED's tho.

    I am driving the ute now. Its got a sort of bullbar (not plastic at least) and much more ground clearance.

    Dean

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    Default Yeah this is driving me nuts.

    With the hand wheel thing - if I get one too large in dia, there's a likelihood fingers will get caught / jammed maybe between the outer rim of the hand wheel and edge of the saw table, while adjusting...if there's not enough clearance for my "Phat Phingers" (Onkaparinga's) which will be annoying when using it.

    Yes this car things driving me nutso ATM.

    Managed to find the 4 spare parts I need (Bonnet, LH F Mudguard, LH F Headlight, and Indicator light) at a local wrecker for $320.00
    Trouble is they are white and the cars silver..... so some spray painting's going to be involved.

    Also I see the front radiator panel (Box section, made up of of U channel, welded within U channel, i.e. spot welded) above the headlight is pushed down maybe half an inch....

    I've done some diagonal cross measurements and the LH front M Gaurd is pushed back about 1 - 2 mm.... its minor and will pull out IF I can figure a way to panel beat the radiator support panel box section above the headlight back UP into its correct position, it will re position the inner guard back the 2 mm to its correct position for the new guard to go on meet the door with the right gap and the bonnet gutters to line up.

    I had a quote from an old retired panel beater of $500 to replace the parts with those I bought and panel the radiator support back into position.
    That would leave the respray work still to be done. (I guess another $200+ just for materials). (Total around $300+$500+$200 + me do all the sanding masking painting) = $1000

    Or

    Local Panel beater down the street says he will do it all for $1200 - using my 2nd hand parts $300 and I do squat - which is what I'm best at!
    = total $1500.

    Or

    I just do it ALL myself... Parts $300, Paint Maybe $200+ & Panel beating nil = Total $500.

    Options, Options...

    The $1500 option it would be back on the road in a few days time...for "she who's p!ssed at walking to the shops & thus me" at the moment.

    The $1000 option will take a few weeks or so longer and involve auto spray painting with acrylics, which I haven't really done in about 30 years (But I did do 20 years spray polishing varnish on furniture so it's not like I haven't got the hand gun skills).

    The $500 option where I do it all, - involves panel beating this box section radiator panel support... which i havent really got a clue how to do properly but MAYBE could work it all out - or conversely make it much worse and screw it up AND in addition - probably take me a couple months of wife misery while I plod away at it and make it up as I go.

    Who cars only worht say $2.5K so it seems somehow "wrong" to throw $1.5K at it in repairs.
    More sleep on it time needed, to work these 3 options out...
    That extra $1K would buy a lot of shed wall linings... dust cyclone fittings... adjustable height work bench air hover pads...

    "Happy Wife = Happy Life" - versus "He who dies with the most toys wins" Arghhh - the ultimate "blokes dilemma"... this could require a forum Poll to decide!.

    Unhappy wife could = early death with the most toys.

    Why is life never "easy"?

    Kids - they are the lifetimes punishment for the few minutes of sexual enjoyment making them 30 years ago!

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