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Thread: pallas horizontal rejuvenating
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31st Jan 2014, 09:31 AM #1Golden Member
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pallas horizontal rejuvenating
im almost finished bringing an old pallas horizontal milling machine back to life after many years of non use
luckily every thing came apart for a clean up with out any dramas
except some galling on the x axis ways should i ignore this and just call them oil retainers or fix it
heres a few pics of before and after
and the marks on the bottom of the bedLast edited by tanii51; 31st Jan 2014 at 09:52 AM. Reason: pic didnt download
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31st Jan 2014, 11:12 AM #2Distracted Member
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I'd put it to work and see what it can do before getting too carried away.
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31st Jan 2014, 08:28 PM #3Golden Member
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yep bryan thats the plan just got to add the vertical attachment and motor and away she goes
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31st Jan 2014, 09:04 PM #4Senior Member
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I would give it a go
I would give it a go but I have been known to be a bit impatient with some projects! As long as there aren't any high spots it should be OK. I am jealous, I would like to spend the time on the old Cincinatti I have in the shed and bring it up to scratch. Well done.
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31st Jan 2014, 10:25 PM #5Most Valued Member
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I'm the same. Give it a stone and run with it, revist if you have a problem or run out of other projects. The way I look at it is "how manay hours work has it done so far in its life? how many hours are you going to put on it in say the next ten years?". Now if you plan on making 1000's of little wiggets a month my answer would be different.
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1st Feb 2014, 07:38 AM #6Pink 10EE owner
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If you need any gears and such for the saddle, I have all the gears out of mine still here... The feed gearbox on mine was different to the one you have, along with the main casting...
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1st Feb 2014, 08:14 AM #7Golden Member
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Thanks for the offer RC at this stage all the gears seem in very good condition it even came with some extra gears for the power feed but havent worked out where they fit yet . the only part that may be useful at this stage is and extra arbor the one that came with it doesnt have a key way cut in it . bit it looks like a number 3 mt so shouldnt be too hard to make an extra one.
ive changed the motor for a more modern one to take advantage of using a vfd
the motor for the vertical attachment is in the motor winders getting converted to delta
its history is a bit vague but it appears it may have come from a tafe college many years ago went to a small garage then passed on the the last owner where it has sat unused for many years since his passing
johnLast edited by tanii51; 1st Feb 2014 at 08:18 AM. Reason: left some out
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5th Feb 2014, 10:32 PM #8Most Valued Member
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I could be wrong but I get the impression that these older machines have such a large bearing area on their ways that a little galling will in many cases have little effect, as long as they high spots are taken off. BTW, those ways look better than on my "brand new" Chinese mill!
Nice machine!
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13th Feb 2014, 12:14 PM #9Golden Member
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bits left over
well the pallas is finally up and running with only a few minor problems
the knee jack has been at some time broken and re welded not a serious problem its just 50mm too short so ill put a spacer under the bottom to lift it.
The vise for some reason doesn't close right up maybe the screw thread has been shortened at some stage but i use a round bar for a spacer any way
and now
what are these for (first pic) left over in a box of things that came with it
johnLast edited by tanii51; 13th Feb 2014 at 12:15 PM. Reason: typos
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13th Feb 2014, 12:26 PM #10Most Valued Member
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Hi John,
One part in the first pic looks like the 'quadrant' arm that holds the gears for a dividing head when doing helical milling.
Phil
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13th Feb 2014, 12:38 PM #11Golden Member
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hah so thats what these gears are for i thought they were for the power feed pity i didnt get the rest of it
so one of those gears goes on the left hand end of the table feedLast edited by tanii51; 13th Feb 2014 at 12:40 PM. Reason: left a bit out
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13th Feb 2014, 12:53 PM #12Golden Member
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like this http://www.lathes.co.uk/victoria/ last pic
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13th Feb 2014, 01:50 PM #13Most Valued Member
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Spot on john. Try and locate the dividing head.
Phil