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    Hi

    I picked an old 1950's DENBIGH horizontal milling machine.. it was destined for the scrappy I think.

    What is interesting is it is fitted with a variable speed drive , it has two large pullies that change diameter ..in/out sort of thing

    It came with a vertical head , this head doubles the horizontal spindle speed .It has two back gears for serious slow speed work

    downside is , the table is rather sad ... lots of scratches and the t slots are badly broken .

    pics soon ,............ mike

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    Hi Mike,
    Filling the shed extention already?

    There is a name for that type of drive but it escapes me right now.

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    Reeves (stepless drive) I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    Hi

    I picked an old 1950's DENBIGH horizontal milling machine.. it was destined for the scrappy I think.

    What is interesting is it is fitted with a variable speed drive , it has two large pullies that change diameter ..in/out sort of thing

    It came with a vertical head , this head doubles the horizontal spindle speed .It has two back gears for serious slow speed work

    downside is , the table is rather sad ... lots of scratches and the t slots are badly broken .

    pics soon ,............ mike
    Mike, I saw a fellow workmate cut a helical gear on one of these mills in about 1958.
    He used a geared dividing head setup & horizontal cutter arbor ,with the table swivelled.
    I think yours probably has this swivelling or universal table feature, which is a big plus for certain jobs.
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    Yes it has the swivelling table and power feeds in both directions .

    The large power hacksaw was thrown in, I could take it or leave it . Was I going to leave it Mike
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    G/day Mike, this thing followed me home today.
    I didn't find much info on them, what I did find is John Ashburn has 2 of them and RC has one with a slotting head fitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shedhappens View Post
    G/day Mike, this thing followed me home today.
    Damn dont you hate it when that happens

    Nice one!

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    Ive got 3. Ive got 2 pre 1956 model C's with 34" tables, one is made of the bad bits of 2 machines and has a damaged table. I'm in the process of parting that one out. I've also got a later one with the larger overarm and a longer table, this was the first machine i ever bought about 12 years ago. A move to a house that already had some better machines mean I've never had it going. I've also got 2 MT3 vertical heads and a MT2 head. They fit the early mills but not the latter one. There is some good info here Page Title . Ive got some McPhersons catalogs with ads for them i will scan them when i get a chance.

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    And i thought it was "he who dies with the most lathes wins"

    Snapatap, we had a thread called "show us your metalworking shed" once, i think we should start a new one, i'd love to see what you and some of the other newer guys have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedhappens View Post
    G/day Mike, this thing followed me home today.
    I didn't find much info on them, what I did find is John Ashburn has 2 of them and RC has one with a slotting head fitted.
    Seems that these Denbighs are multiplying by the minute ! BTW Your shed looks just as filled up as mine does .

    At least we can compare notes and maybe lose some brain cells along the way . I know these mills are not from the top end of the market , but they do have MADE IN ENGLAND which says a lot .

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    Seems that these Denbighs are multiplying by the minute ! BTW Your shed looks just as filled up as mine does .

    At least we can compare notes and maybe lose some brain cells along the way . I know these mills are not from the top end of the market , but they do have MADE IN ENGLAND which says a lot .
    When I looked at it it all looked pretty good, motor sounded sweet, all gears ok, drive shaft to the table feed a little rattly, not much backlash in the screws, counter shaft brgs maybe a little noisy but still useable.

    It was basically plug and play...............

    I wasn't planning on having to do much to this mill other than a clean and lube, things change tho, between the time I looked at it and came back with the truck it was pulled out of its parking spot and ready to be put on the truck, we loaded it and we unloaded it with no dramas.

    Then in my shed....ah ha..... %*(#@& something is different now
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    Quote Originally Posted by shedhappens View Post
    When I looked at it it all looked pretty good, motor sounded sweet, all gears ok, drive shaft to the table feed a little rattly, not much backlash in the screws, counter shaft brgs maybe a little noisy but still useable.

    It was basically plug and play...............

    I wasn't planning on having to do much to this mill other than a clean and lube, things change tho, between the time I looked at it and came back with the truck it was pulled out of its parking spot and ready to be put on the truck, we loaded it and we unloaded it with no dramas.

    Then in my shed....ah ha..... %*(#@& something is different now
    So now you will have to have a better look to check for other damage. Interestingly, I was turning a small HDPE tube for a repair last night when I realised that the carriage handwheel had a wobble. My hand felt it and then my eye saw it. Not much but I would prefer it wasn't there. The lathe was dropped on its face when being installed at work. They pinched the cross slide handwheel off their old lathe, the Nuttall which I then bought. Now I have this handwheel back, and I don't want it LOL. I have decided I need to investigate further to check for any more damage. The power feed lever has a HDPE knob hastily jammed on, would be how I would describe it. I assumed this was as a result of the same incident, but until I look further I won't know. It may have been a plastic knob that broke, but most of the knobs are turned steel.

    Good luck and if I wasn't already all crossed up for Phil I would cross my fingers that you fix this issue without further concerns popping up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedhappens View Post
    When I looked at it it all looked pretty good, motor sounded sweet, all gears ok, drive shaft to the table feed a little rattly, not much backlash in the screws, counter shaft brgs maybe a little noisy but still useable.

    It was basically plug and play...............

    I wasn't planning on having to do much to this mill other than a clean and lube, things change tho, between the time I looked at it and came back with the truck it was pulled out of its parking spot and ready to be put on the truck, we loaded it and we unloaded it with no dramas.

    Then in my shed....ah ha..... %*(#@& something is different now
    Thats not too bad , a clever chap like u will fix that in no time

    There are a few different models of these mills , going by the lathes uk scribble . Your example looks nice and relatively looked after by previous owners .

    Your vertical attachment looks to be different to mine . The slotting head would be fairy easy to make , I did see a home made example on a web site somewhere .

    I was emailing a guy in the UK with a Denbigh mill . Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapatap View Post
    Ive got 3. Ive got 2 pre 1956 model C's with 34" tables, one is made of the bad bits of 2 machines and has a damaged table. I'm in the process of parting that one out. I've also got a later one with the larger overarm and a longer table, this was the first machine i ever bought about 12 years ago. A move to a house that already had some better machines mean I've never had it going. I've also got 2 MT3 vertical heads and a MT2 head. They fit the early mills but not the latter one. There is some good info here Page Title . Ive got some McPhersons catalogs with ads for them i will scan them when i get a chance.
    G/day snapatap, I'm looking forward to those catalog scans and some pic's of your machines for all us sticky beaks
    Do you have any info about lubrication for these machines ? I assume that at least a few of those grease nipples are actually oil nipples, I haven't looked close enough to see if brgs or bushes are at the other end of them?

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    So now you will have to have a better look to check for other damage. Interestingly,
    Dean
    The table will have to come off so I'll be able to have a better squiz then.

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    Good luck and if I wasn't already all crossed up for Phil I would cross my fingers that you fix this issue without further concerns popping up.
    Dean
    This shaft is a minor detail, Phil's shift is a life changing event, if you are reading this Steamie good luck mate

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    Thats not too bad , a clever chap like u will fix that in no time

    Mike
    cough cough... sputter..... I was thinking, get the shaft out, make a couple of rattling fit bushes to go either side of the bend to protect the shaft, then give it a push or two (or twenty little ones) in the press, it looks like it bent in a good spot actually.
    Anyone got a better plan ?

    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    Your vertical attachment looks to be different to mine .
    Mike
    Is yours the same as the one the one here ? Page Title

    Quote Originally Posted by morrisman View Post
    The slotting head would be fairy easy to make , I did see a home made example on a web site somewhere .
    Mike
    Here is RC's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwdMBYKg0Ak

    .....shed
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    Is yours the same as the one the one here ? Page Title



    Yes that is it . It has roller bearings inside it and the whole head looks to be X 3 times stronger than it needs to be

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