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    Default any one know which lathe this is ? look similar to the Lorch

    I'm restoring it now . almost done but waiting for the new spindle bearing .
    all information's I have is made in 1941 stemped on the headstock . it use the taper 32206 bearing on the headstock . any one have spare one ?

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    Interesting little lathe Peter with its offset topslide leadscrew and drive.

    If no one here can identify it you could always email your photos to Tony Griffiths at lathes.co.uk and see if he recognises it.

    Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    Interesting little lathe Peter with its offset topslide leadscrew and drive.

    If no one here can identify it you could always email your photos to Tony Griffiths at lathes.co.uk and see if he recognises it.

    Bob.
    Good Day Bob.
    it is quite nice little lathe .i restore it purely for display piece and may be play around with some little tuning .
    i'm pretty sure it made in germany as the bearing used in the headstock are all germany as well as the collets set .but funny it doesn't have any brand name printed anywhere . tails stock is super smooth as well as the cross/topslide . I love the feel of it .
    yes please do pass it onto Tony see if he can identify it .
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    Dear Peter,

    What a fantastic looking machine. I think that it is a Lorch. Compare your cross/topslide assembly with this page showing a much older lathe: Page Title

    Just sit and compare your's to this one, there are some nice close-up pictures. They are very, very, similar.

    1941 you say, is it just the number stamped in, is it possible that it is a serial number? My serial numbers are on my headstock, the bed, the tailstock, and somewhere on the cross slide assembly, for the watchmaker's Lorch that I have. From memory the number is in the 1 thousands.

    Let's just say it is a 1941 build, WW2 was going for two years already. I think that the lack of a maker's badge would probably have something to do with it being a 'war-finish' type machine. Beautifying a machine would not be at the top of their priority list, getting them out the door would've been. The collets and bearings, are they marked "Germany", or "Deutschland"?

    Peruse this website, it is in both German and English, you will find lots of manuals. I had a look through but couldn't find your exact one. There is some nice information about tolerances etc as well for similar machines, which would be very helpful in getting it running nicely. Catalogs collection Lorch tools, lathes by Steffen Pahlow©. Incidentally this fellow has a nice youtube video up showing his Lorch KD 50 lathe. Worth taking a look. Lorch KD 50 Lathe, Drehbank in Aktion - YouTube

    Would you be willing to put up pictures of other parts you have? Even if they are unrestored. I'd be very interested in seeing them. Does it take the 10mm collets?

    Kind regards,
    Joe

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    Hi Peter,
    That is a beautiful looking lathe, you have done a great job on the resto.

    Do you have the cabinet, countershaft etc? More photo's please!
    The bearing is a standard wheel bearing size, you would be best trying to get them in P4, but they will not be cheap.

    Cheers,
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    Thanks Guys.
    I did have most of everything's with the lathe . complete set of collets and dead center but optional parts is not .
    will take some more pictures soon .
    Ewan. I see good bearing on ebay for not much i think they all around under $20 for that 32206 but shipping will get it up there

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmebgo View Post
    Dear Peter,

    What a fantastic looking machine. I think that it is a Lorch. Compare your cross/topslide assembly with this page showing a much older lathe: Page Title

    Just sit and compare your's to this one, there are some nice close-up pictures. They are very, very, similar.

    1941 you say, is it just the number stamped in, is it possible that it is a serial number? My serial numbers are on my headstock, the bed, the tailstock, and somewhere on the cross slide assembly, for the watchmaker's Lorch that I have. From memory the number is in the 1 thousands.

    Let's just say it is a 1941 build, WW2 was going for two years already. I think that the lack of a maker's badge would probably have something to do with it being a 'war-finish' type machine. Beautifying a machine would not be at the top of their priority list, getting them out the door would've been. The collets and bearings, are they marked "Germany", or "Deutschland"?

    Peruse this website, it is in both German and English, you will find lots of manuals. I had a look through but couldn't find your exact one. There is some nice information about tolerances etc as well for similar machines, which would be very helpful in getting it running nicely. Catalogs collection Lorch tools, lathes by Steffen Pahlow©. Incidentally this fellow has a nice youtube video up showing his Lorch KD 50 lathe. Worth taking a look. Lorch KD 50 Lathe, Drehbank in Aktion - YouTube

    Would you be willing to put up pictures of other parts you have? Even if they are unrestored. I'd be very interested in seeing them. Does it take the 10mm collets?

    Kind regards,
    Joe
    Hi Joe.
    here is some details pictures of all the bits . the collets set come in to two different sources . a few is marked Germany and few other marked some company name and i'm nor sure if it take the 10mm collets .the set I have now is 15mm or there about.
    the serial on this lathe stamped on the end of the bed is BMR 7925 , the headstock do have some kind of serial numbers as well and the underneath is stamped 1941 and date of course.
    like you i compare some Lorch lathe to my and I think I now know for sure mine is Lorch but what model ? I don't know .
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    Peter, I think the key to what make the lathe is lies in picture dsc6882.

    The triangulation in the lathe bed is quite distinctive (and unusual).

    I don't see anything like this on the Lorch web pages at Tony's site.

    Find the maker using that bed triangulation and you will have your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nearnexus View Post
    Peter, I think the key to what make the lathe is lies in picture dsc6882.

    The triangulation in the lathe bed is quite distinctive (and unusual).

    I don't see anything like this on the Lorch web pages at Tony's site.

    Find the maker using that bed triangulation and you will have your answer.

    Rob
    Hi Rob.
    you are right . most parts look like the Lorch but the bed isn't so i don't know what this Lathe really is .
    cheers
    Peter

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    Thanks for posting those photo's Peter. It really looks like a nice machine. What is the centre height and centre to centre distance?

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmebgo View Post
    Thanks for posting those photo's Peter. It really looks like a nice machine. What is the centre height and centre to centre distance?

    Joe
    Dear Joe.
    I just measured the useable distance between center is around 400mm and about 3.5" center height .
    you welcome to pop over if you in the west .
    cheers
    Peter

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    Hi Peter,

    Thanks for the info, and the offer. I've sent you a private message.

    Joe

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