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    Default Waldown High Speed

    Josh and I went on a road trip yesterday to see Ewan, and deliver GQ's vise and some 4140 bar for the Rivett spindle, it was great to catch up with Ewan and I was very impressed with the huge workshop and some **very** nice machines, his 24" Queen City Shaper is mind boggling.... makes our 18" varnamo look like a toy...

    Ewan kindly picked up the Waldown Drill Press I bought at the ANU auction last month, ( $130 including rip) and this thread is to document the machine and the restoration project. I thought originally it was a 12000 rpm version but now I think it's a 6000 rpm model.

    It's a fairly heavy machine for such a small drill press...
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    the belt cover isn't secured, it's heavy cast iron and just lifts off after you remove the
    raise and lower handle.
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    There's a worklight just behind the chuck, and a giant 415 3 phase to 12v transformer in the base, just for the worklight..
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    Assuming the motor is 2880 rpm, the pulleys are 2 and a bit to one ratio, so that should be 6000 rpm... I'll be converting it to run single phase with a
    vfd, and so I think I can fit the vfd inside the cast iron base...

    The colour, will be restored to the original waldown ( of course )

    Many thanks to Ewan for picking it up!

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    I reckon the NH is a thing of beauty. Waldown hit the nail on the head with this one.

    Back when I bought my green roller bearing Hercus 9 there were a number of machines that accompanied the 9 when the wife of the original owner, a QC, sold off his collection. I bought his little Lotze power hacksaw, it had a single phase motor. I walked away from his near mint NH because it was fitted with a 3 phase donk. It would have cost me $200.

    I'm glad it's in Shepparton and I'm glad you have some teal blue paint left. I look forward to following the restoration.

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    Thanks BT,

    I'm starting the search for documentation, you haven't come across any literature on the NH by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    Thanks BT,

    I'm starting the search for documentation, you haven't come across any literature on the NH by any chance?
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    Not much of a start but a start none the less. A couple of pages from Brobo Waldown's Precision Drilling and Tapping Machines brochure of 1993.


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    Ray,

    I had a peruse of my McPherson's catalogues. Your NH looks like it is pre 1960. Somewhere between 1955 and 1960, the belt guard changed to its modern shape. Matty Fazio has a vast McPherson's catalogue selection. He may be able the narrow down the transition date. He may also be able to indicate the date of the high speed drill's introduction.

    Hope all this helps.

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    Hi BT,

    Thanks for the excellent info, ( I knew you'd have it covered ) it looks like the one in the 1955 Macpherson's catalog, but I'll quiz Matty and see if he can narrow it down.

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    Default Waldown High Speed Drill

    Ray
    I was following that auction very closely & was going to bid on the Waldown.
    Then noticed you were bidding & convinced myself that I did not need the drill.
    The 6000 rpm however, is a fairly practical speed for a range of not so small drill diameters.
    It will be a handy & solid machine.
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    Ray, it looks like the version you have (based on BT's pictures) is the 15k/ 18k version and to get the lower speeds a change of pulleys is required, such as BT has pictured.
    If you both posted dimensions then you could make up both A and B sets of pulleys (is the belt length the same?)

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    Ray and Josh,
    did you get another pair of pulleys with that drill?
    I looks like the installed pair is the 'B' set and the spindle one is upside down.
    As Bob's photos show, the 'A' set is 4-speed.
    I'll go and take some photos of mine shortly (which is very different, with a movable table - and I'd like Bob's help to date it).
    If by chance you didn't get another pulley pair, you are most welcome to borrow mine as a pattern, of course.
    Cheers, Joe
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    Hi Joe,
    What you see is what came with the lot, the drill. Not even a chuck key! The 4 stage pulleys wouldn't fit under the belt guard either. I just figured it was a one speed model.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Ray and Josh,
    did you get another pair of pulleys with that drill?
    I looks like the installed pair is the 'B' set and the spindle one is upside down.
    As Bob's photos show, the 'A' set is 4-speed.
    I'll go and take some photos of mine shortly (which is very different, with a movable table - and I'd like Bob's help to date it).
    If by chance you didn't get another pulley pair, you are most welcome to borrow mine as a pattern, of course.

    Hi Joe,

    Thanks, I'd like to see those pictures. As Ewan has said, I don't think that the 4 pulley cluster would fit mine. Not enough height.

    What makes you think the spindle pulley is upside down? If it's the "B" set, I think it will be the motor that's upside down?

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    Default In Another McPherson's Catalogue

    Hello All,
    The appearance of the McP catalogues in this thread alerted my memory that I have a McPhersons Catalogue - somewhere. Well I found it - still in pretty good shape . Face page could be missing but the index at the front says 1955 - so I was 11 when I pinched it from my Dad's collection. Here is Page 57 showing the Waldown V86. Perhaps they produced more than one issue per year, as the page number from Bob's 1955 version is on Page 41 - and the model number is different. I can understand how it must be difficult to re-deterimine model numbers when data plates are missing. I hope this post does not add to the confusion!
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    Well its been 12 hours guys, why isnt it finished?

    I thought the spindle pulley might flip also but its not going to get you above 12k even then. To get 18k you need a 25mm pulley right? Does the the spindle pullley come off and the belt run on the bolt?(as you couldnt fit a much bigger pulley on the motor but there is plenty of belt adjustment.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Well its been 12 hours guys, why isnt it finished?

    I thought the spindle pulley might flip also but its not going to get you above 12k even then. To get 18k you need a 25mm pulley right? Does the the spindle pullley come off and the belt run on the bolt?(as you couldnt fit a much bigger pulley on the motor but there is plenty of belt adjustment.)

    Stuart

    The easiest way might be to flip the front pulley as joe suggests, the front measures 1 1/2" and 2 3/4 the motor pulley measures 6" so that's motor_rpm * 4, and motor_rpm * 2.18 So if the motor is 2880, that's 11,520 and 6,278...

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