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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarBee View Post
    Hello All,
    The appearance of the McP catalogues in this thread alerted my memory that I have a McPhersons Catalogue - somewhere. Well I found it - still in pretty good shape . Face page could be missing but the index at the front says 1955 - so I was 11 when I pinched it from my Dad's collection. Here is Page 57 showing the Waldown V86. Perhaps they produced more than one issue per year, as the page number from Bob's 1955 version is on Page 41 - and the model number is different. I can understand how it must be difficult to re-deterimine model numbers when data plates are missing. I hope this post does not add to the confusion!
    Regards, Daryl

    Hello Daryl,

    The '55 catalogue in my photos is an abbreviated machine tool only publication, not the usual one inch thick version. No confusion.

    Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    The easiest way might be to flip the front pulley as joe suggests, the front measures 1 1/2" and 2 3/4 the motor pulley measures 6" so that's motor_rpm * 4, and motor_rpm * 2.18 So if the motor is 2880, that's 11,520 and 6,278...

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    I don't think the nut would let you do it Ray.

    Rob
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    Quote Originally Posted by nearnexus View Post
    I don't think the nut would let you do it Ray.
    That rules out my idea, (dont think it would run very smooth with the belt on the hex of the bolt), unless the motor pulley is upsidedown?(cant tell from the picture is has two steps or not?)

    Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by nearnexus View Post
    I don't think the nut would let you do it Ray.

    Rob
    Your'e right Rob, The spindle pulley can only go one way, which means it's the motor pulley that has to be flipped...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    That rules out my idea, (dont think it would run very smooth with the belt on the hex of the bolt), unless the motor pulley is upsidedown?(cant tell from the picture is has two steps or not?)

    Correct again Stuart, the motor pulley flips for the different speeds.

    So the high speed 12K configuration will look like so...
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    I hope that makes sense.


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    Now the VERY long belt guard also makes sense.
    Cheers, Joe
    retired - less energy, more time to contemplate projects and more shed time....

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    It's interesting that they use a similar fabric type flat belt as used on my Waldown TPG.

    I can't see that taking heavy loads, but maybe it can.

    I'm surprised they use that setup instead of a "V" belt.

    Rob
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    Here are some (poor) photos of my Waldown Type NH with 'flat' foot, separate table and fixed head.
    You can see where I scratched some grey paint off. It came from the Bendigo Ordinance Factory (a long time ago).
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    Cheers, Joe
    retired - less energy, more time to contemplate projects and more shed time....

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    Default Herbert made one too....

    Hello Waldown NH owners,

    I have a Herbert Type B high speed drill, not quite a twin to the Waldown NH but they probably were close friends at school. As bought from Wallan, Victoria, mine is 3 phase, set to do 18,000rpm only and is complete with a Herbert collet nose and collet nut. On mine the small pulley on the drill spindle is only 30mm or so diameter and is non metallic. I am going to start a renovation of the machine with modern electrics, a VSD and a change to the front flat pulley to make it a stepped item and give a slower range of speeds. I want to retain the top speed but will reduce the lowest speed from 9000rpm to 4500rpm so i can drill up to 3mm in brass for larger clock bushes. Mine is fitted with an explosion proof continuously rated .33hp motor that is star + delta wound so VSD is easy.

    The challenge I have is to economically renovate this machine (or any other for that matter) and find collets, so if anyone has some weird little collets and dont know what they are, let me know.

    I have options, I could modify say a MT-0 to JT-0 arbor so it will fit the female collet form or modify the nose so it takes horological collets which are easy to find or make it a MT-0 for a standard 4mm drill chuck. The issue is maintaining truth and balance from 4,500rpm to 18,000rpm if i touch the quill with machine tools.

    Good luck with the restoration, i will appreciate your progress as I face a number of challenges with a very similar high quality drill (hopefully photo in the back of the car below)

    regards mgtoolmaker

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    I hope to pick up this NH next week if all goes to plan. I'm not sure if it is a MkIII or IV or whatever but going by some of the details in this thread I would say that it is not a really early version.

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    Hi Techo,

    Thanks for the pdf, good stuff... but something is wrong with the other attachment? I just get a message saying "invalid attachment"

    Ray

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    Sorry Ray, I missed your reply a few days ago but I have no idea as to why you can't see the picture, I am not real good at posting photos etc and I am surprised that PDF showed up at all.

    Lex.

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    Ok i have softened.....black with gold leaf just doesnt seem appropriate for such a classic drill press
    What colour are you all using for the waldown colour match...what code?
    I would like to use killrust and/or is dulux metalshield premium just as good

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    Looking at my 9 year old Kilrust colour chart, the blue of my Waldown is closest to "Navigator". "Ocean" is a little darker again. The next blue lighter is Wedgewood but that is the colour I painted my lathe and it's lighter than the chart. The exact colour is probably not as critical as Waldown seem to vary their colours a bit more than most.

    Michael

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    I'm looking forward to embracing Waldown Sensitive club membership when I pick up this one tomorrow!

    I look forward to many years of usage!Waldown V85.jpgWaldown v85 a.jpg

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    Well, colour me bitterly disappointed at the integrity of some of the people out there - did a deal to purchase the Waldown drill yesterday for pick up tomorrow ( the tomorrow bit was at the vendors request) - only to be advised curtly tonight that it has been sold & delivered to someone else. I’ve been had.

    I’m flabbergasted & gutted......

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