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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post
    The more industrial type machines (both sorts) feed down with gravity but have a hydraulic damper that will slow the decent. Too much down feed and the blade can twist, which means (on a cheap Chinese anyway) a non-square cut. The Heska takes a 27mm deep blade, so I can't see it twisting easily.
    You are right that horizontal bandsaws are a relative new comer compared to power hacksaws. The only thing that they have over bandsaws is that relaxing reciprocating motion.

    I would be very surprised if you can't get it going with lathe and mill. There may be some sheet metal work to do, but my guess would be things like seized up bearings, maybe a broken switch, the down feed needs cleaning or some moving parts have rusted together. Imagine a motor driving a pulley with a belt on it and another pulley the same size on the other end. That's basically it. Then there's a vice and (probably) the hydraulic down feed - normally a piston with a tap to control the rate fluid leaves the cylinder

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    Nah. I can't even spell Mordialloc, let alone know where it is. It's another one of those machines where if I had the space...

    Of course, having talked you into it, I'll feel a right dill if you buy it and can't get it going - so perhaps you'd better not touch it.

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    Ha! Early days yet Michael but if anything does eventuate and I buy it and then realise I can't fix it, this forum will never hear of it again because it will be a reflection of my limited abilities! It will just sit quietly in the corner of my shed, a constant reminder to me that I should never get ahead of myself....

    And yes, your name will be mud for a month or two.....

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    Thanks Simon,


    If you can get it cheap, say $150 or less go for it if you want a project.
    On the other hand if you put you money aside, the next Hare and Forbes sale is just around the corner and buy a brand new one.
    One thing to remember with a taller blade come the taller price for blades and you cant use it vertical.

    I use mine vertical a lot and so does my son on both mine and at work, so something to think about. The blades are only $10 each so if you break one of trash it on something it's not a real problem.

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    I do like the instructions painted on that Heska....

    My take on the hacksaw vs bandsaw argument, is buy the one you find cheap which has a big enough capacity for what you want to cut. Having said that, if space were an issue, aren't power hacksaws generally pretty big and heavy compared to the average import bandsaw (comparing models of even cut capacity?)

    I ended up with a secondhand 7x12 import bandsaw (for less than the cost of a new 4x6!), spent a bit of time tweaking it and getting it back up to scratch (new guide bearings etc), and I'm happy with it... I picked that size due to the size of the pieces of scrap at my local yard .

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    I have the cheap Asian band saw and would be lost with out it. I leave mine set to 90degrees and fit tapered spacers to the angle I want. It is a pain to set to the angle required and then reset, particularly if doing 45s and 90s repeatedly.
    They do need some tweaking to make them better, but what can you buy now days that doesn't, there is a previous thread that has an answer to tweaking from me in Model Engineers Workshop. If you can't find it, I'll dig it out and repost it.
    Using the bi metal blades helps keep the cost down,
    Maybe there needs to be something put in the library or a separate section for the band saws, what do you think Moderators????
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    I do like the idea of a project. Especially if it's a good brand. So far all my metal working machines (well all two of them, mill and lathe) were bought new and are Chinese. While I am happy with them, I do feel it's time to bring some style to my shed in the way of old quality. I have been eyeing of a Sheraton lathe which I'm dreaming about too!Metal Lathe | eBay

    Although my ultimate lathe would have to be a VDF. Not that I know much about them. As a young boy my old man told me he thought they were the best lathe he ever worked on. I would love to make Dad turn in his grave by acquiring one! Then again I wouldn't knock back a Monarch either

    Also, I have plenty of space in my shed, it's not a massive shed by any stretch at 9mx7m but I'm happy with it. I'm continually finding that I am re-shuffling stuff when I get something new. The poor wood working section seems to get squeezed smaller and smaller. A small lean-to off one side to house my generator and compressor would help. They don't need to be in the shed. There I go, off on a tangent. OT on my own thread!

    Anyway, getting back on track, what I'm trying to say is that my shed needs some old stuff!

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    Dave, I didn't even know you could use them vertical until I looked at a youtube vid!

    Hi KB, I'm kinda looking for a secondhand bargain. One that I can tinker on as a time filler in between other stuff. If I were to consider a new one then I would have to wait until I have more coin. I will have a look for that thread anyway as I like it when people make improvements to machines. Some of the improvements I have seen on various machines I would never have thought of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave J View Post
    I use mine vertical a lot and so does my son on both mine and at work, so something to think about. The blades are only $10 each so if you break one of trash it on something it's not a real problem.
    They are a total POS as a vertical bandsaw for more reasons than I feel like typing out.

    Anyone who even thinks that they're good or even adequate has obviously never used a proper vertical bandsaw.

    As for $10 blades, with bandsaw blades you get what you pay for. Mine usually cost me about $30 each and are Euro or USA made bimetallic blades.

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    Hi simon

    I had a 4x6 Chinese bandsaw and thought it was great till i got a bigger made in twain version it will cut 250mm round and its bloody awsome the 6x4 would cut a solid mild steel block 2"x3" in 45 min the big one 3min it just eats steel
    i have a parkanson hacksaw for sale if you want to go down that road,its slower than the big bandsaw but faster than the 6x4 and much nicer build quality
    but id try for the old heska if i was you

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonl View Post
    Although my ultimate lathe would have to be a VDF. Not that I know much about them. As a young boy my old man told me he thought they were the best lathe he ever worked on. I would love to make Dad turn in his grave by acquiring one! Then again I wouldn't knock back a Monarch either

    Also, I have plenty of space in my shed,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedhappens View Post
    Yea I know. saw it the other day.

    I don't think that one will find it's way into my shed.... not right now anyway.

    Hey, I showed the misses a photo of the Heska (you know, just to see what she would say) and she said "WHY DON'T YOU GET IT!"

    Man, you can never pick it. I was half expecting the old chestnut "WHAT DO YOU WANT WITH THAT?"


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    PLUCK !!!!!
    quick !!! show her the pickie of the VDF

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    Sounds like you have the go ahead, but what is your wife up to, LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDW View Post
    They are a total POS as a vertical bandsaw for more reasons than I feel like typing out.
    Anyone who even thinks that they're good or even adequate has obviously never used a proper vertical bandsaw.
    I agree they are a long long from a proper vertical metal cutting bandsaw but I'd rather have one than nothing at all especially as I don't have oxy cutting gear in my shed.
    For me the worst thing about them is their instability in the upright position especially if you have to put a bit of pressure on the blade.
    I know some people sit on them but I prefer to back them up against something.

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