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Thread: Vernier FV.3.TO Milling machine
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2nd Jan 2013, 09:48 PM #16Senior Member
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Hey Ueee this one isn't a universal mill is it?. Seems a lot of thickness between the traverse slideways and the top of the table. I can see a line across the front just below the levers with the red lines pointing to them. If it is a universal machine, which many horizontal's were, then the 4 levers aren't some sort of lock system to lock the rotational position of the bed section are they?
Anyway whatever they are you'll have fun finding out when playing with it
Cheers.If I'm not right, then I'm wrong, I'll just go bend some more bananas.
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2nd Jan 2013, 10:01 PM #17Most Valued Member
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Hi Ewan,
I'd say the green and purple ones are gib locks
black feed direction
StuartLast edited by Stustoys; 2nd Jan 2013 at 10:04 PM. Reason: like logs idea better
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2nd Jan 2013, 10:18 PM #18
Can someone else hear an echo???
Sorry Stu, couldn't resist.
I don't *think* (really, i don't) it has a rotating table. The google translation of the manual says things like "adjustment nut of the mobile work by swallowing" and "level cart" so thats no help...... like you say Log, i'll just have to wait till i get it moved and see....1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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2nd Jan 2013, 10:31 PM #19Most Valued Member
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Vernier FV.3.TO Milling machine
I'd say it definitely has a rotating table Ewan. Niiiice.
Phil
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2nd Jan 2013, 11:02 PM #20Most Valued Member
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3rd Jan 2013, 12:03 AM #21Member
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Congrats on the new machine, you can't go wrong for $200 - it would be worth more as scrap.
Be safe moving the thing, it looks like an absolute beast.
All the best
Cheers
Jon
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3rd Jan 2013, 12:26 AM #22.
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Regarding zeroing the zed, my method is pretty crude. I wind the tableup so that the cutter is a whisker away from the workpiece and then very carefully creep the table up while turning the spindle by hand until the cutter makes the slightest contact. I often mark the workpiece with a blue Artline to aid in the process. Then I zero the graduated collar. Easy enough on my little mill, could be trickier on le Grande Vernier.
This group might be worth joining Ewan, it may include some mill owners. - Vernier_FAM : Vernier & FAM Lathe Owners Group
BT
ps. I've looked at a number of Verniers in Google Images. I too am leaning towards your's being a universal.Last edited by Anorak Bob; 3rd Jan 2013 at 01:04 AM. Reason: added a bit
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3rd Jan 2013, 12:59 AM #23
Hmmm....seems to be lathes only. But with just 1 post in 3 years....
The other site you directed me to is good, once you get past the bad translations! There are a few good post on fixing oil seals, getting into the "console" (feed box i think) and something about a "bati" that just won't translate! Even now i feel the need to re-arrange my words so that they sense less make!1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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4th Jan 2013, 02:05 PM #24Senior Member
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4th Jan 2013, 02:37 PM #25
Thats the general consensus on the French forum too, and that is what the levers i was unsure about are for. I'm told they are pretty rare. That is what the TO is on the model name stands for, table orientable. Surprising that there is not more with the TO, it was only 2000franc more, about 350euro. The machine would have been 80,582franc in 1976. Some of the option included a 10hp motor, Factory DRO, optical verniers on X and Y, hardened X ways/table, slotting and high speed heads (prices of 7,350f and 16,783f respectively)
Oh, and for those playing along at home, the "bati" is the bed of the machine, the main casting with the Z dovetail on it. I think* the "console" is the knee......Last edited by Ueee; 4th Jan 2013 at 02:52 PM. Reason: added a bit
1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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4th Jan 2013, 05:12 PM #26Senior Member
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Missing vertical head assembly clamp
Hi Ueee,
If no one can help you from the French forum regarding the clamp I'm sure you will be easily able to work out what is required once you have the head up in position.
Double check with the seller just to see if it isn't lying about his place somewhere,
Cheers.If I'm not right, then I'm wrong, I'll just go bend some more bananas.
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6th Jan 2013, 02:13 PM #27
One of the members on the usinages forum has sent me some fantastic drawings of the clamp, and the original nuts. As I though it is more complicated than it looks. Wonder if 4e will do, or if I should use 3d or even steel.
1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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6th Jan 2013, 09:25 PM #28.
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Can you post the drawings here Ewan? It would be interesting to see what you need to make. I've made a few things from 4E. Messy stuff but cuts like butter.
BT
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6th Jan 2013, 09:49 PM #29Most Valued Member
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WOW Ueeee, that's what I would call a Humdinger great score !!
Setting yer zero, being the slack and unsophisticated bloke that I am I use the old
texta and witness mark trick, but even then that depends on how accurate the first pass
has to be ?
I reckon that once you get this beast gnawing chunks of metal again there with be a few
big long chop chops coming outta the beast
john
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6th Jan 2013, 09:56 PM #30
Thanks John, and Happy new year.
Here is the plan BT, the thinnest part under tension will be 25mm thick, and i'll use a cutting tool with a radius corner to cut the main groove.1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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