Thread: Horizontal mill, what make is this one???

Hi,
I picked up this old horizontal mill when I bought the Alba shaper a while back. I just found a picture on the computer so I thought someone might know what make it is.

It is an old line shaft model and has a MT3 taper, table is around 800 x 230mm and the machine stands about 1400mm and 1000mm deep to give you an estimate of the size. When I got it it had a electric motor mounted on a swivel plate bolted to the side of the column. So someone has converted it over at the expense of grinding away some of the casting to get the belt to fit through.

It's an imperial machine (even though I gave metric above, LOL) and the only thing on it is a Demco badge, but they sold everything.
Also as can be seen it has power table feed and the coolant pump also run off the spindle. The power feed has a 4 speed gear box as well as a range of pulley sizes on the back that feed it.

The spindle bearings are the plain type, and the outboard support has a taper bush where you tighten it up take up any wear in it ( I wish they had of done on the HM52)







Dave

What a cracker you have there Dave..WELL DONE.!!!!!!!!!!
I would be lost without my big horizontal mill.
Mate your shed is half the size of mine, And mine is FU*&%#@ full.
How in the lords name are you squeezing all this gear in?
Congrats on your new toy.
Matt

I don't know but it looks like a keeper. Maybe have a look around Tony's site and if your isn't listed and you do find out what it is send him some pics...Bob
lathes

Is the ruler hiding battle scars Dave? If not then that table appears to be in good nick. Nice looking little mill.

BT

Originally Posted by matthew_g

What a cracker you have there Dave..WELL DONE.!!!!!!!!!!
I would be lost without my big horizontal mill.
Mate your shed is half the size of mine, And mine is FU*&%#@ full.
How in the lords name are you squeezing all this gear in?
Congrats on your new toy.
Matt

Hi Matt,
Not a new one, I picked it up back when I bought the Alba shaper, but only just came across these few photos of it last night.

Dave

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

Is the ruler hiding battle scars Dave? If not then that table appears to be in good nick. Nice looking little mill.

BT

I am pretty sure it's not hiding anything Bob, but that photo was I while so I will double check and take another photo of it without.

The other Bob,
Thanks for that, I did have a look when I got it, but found nothing and have never seen another one like it.

Dave

Dave
Could be a Denbigh.
Not sure if the spelling is correct, but it looks like that type of Mill.
regards
Bruce

Thanks Bruce,
They made them strong back then, cast iron coolant tank, LOL
I also like the telescopic knee screw and I am pretty sure it headed for the HM52 once I put the riser on. On the HM52 I would either run out of screw with a riser, so it's either raise the mill up to clear a longer one, or drill a hole in the concrete like some of the older horizontal mill, neither of them is happening so this screw will fit the bill just nicely.

Dave

Looks like the one near bottom of this page. Actually come across it searching Google pics for Denbigh.

Page Title

Nev

Hi Nev,
You have hit the nail on the head thee, thanks.
A few small differences, but it looks like it's a Pallas mill (at the bottom of the page)and it states it is not British made but foreign made, which I know Demco where importers of foreign made machines.

Dave

I kinda like the Pallas H00 mill here.

Model Steam Engineers - Pallas milling machine

Bit like a Hercus.

Nev

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

Is the ruler hiding battle scars Dave? If not then that table appears to be in good nick. Nice looking little mill.

BT

Hi Bob,
I checked it and no big scars, just a few very small ones that looks like something has been dropped here and there, but not in that spot where the ruler was. I think I placed it there for scale for the size of the machine.

You can see a patch on the front where I gave it a rub with a scourer to see what it was going to come up like and it also has a bit of green paint on it.


Dave

Originally Posted by SurfinNev

I kinda like the Pallas H00 mill here.

Model Steam Engineers - Pallas milling machine

Bit like a Hercus.

Nev

I have a small one like that here as well, but in pieces and has a squarer over arm. I will grab pictures latter and post them up.
It also has power table feed.

Dave

Here are a few more pictures which confirms it is just like the one in the link from Nev.

This is where they ground out the casting for more clearance of the motor belt.


The helical back gears



Another shot of the butchered casting



The tapered bronze bush for the horizontal support, which can be adjusted to take out wear along the way.
You tighten the out board nut on it, which pulls the bushing into the taper more and closes the bushing down on the arbour sleeve.



Dave

Originally Posted by Dave J

I also like the telescopic knee screw and I am pretty sure it headed for the HM52 once I put the riser on.

So no plans to resurrect the old girl Dave?