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    Hi all,

    Yesterday I became the proud owner of a milling machine and some accessories photos are attached.

    I only got one picture of the mill. It is supposed to be a Taiwanese machine from 1978. Can anybody identify the machine?

    You will notice amongst the accessories is a Myford indexing attachment with two plates.

    Unfortunately the previous owner has had some sort of mishap and machined the centre T- Slot wider for quite a large portion of its length. I will try and get some more photos of this, hopefully some of you will have ideas on how this could be fixed.

    Also the machine is 3 phase, I should have got a picture of the motor plate too. I am going to need a VFD anybody have any suggestions on a brand and supplier ?

    Regards

    Eric

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    Your mill is identical to mine ,except mine is single phase.
    I have no manufacturers plate on mine , but I believe these machines were sold by H&F .
    Mine needs a head rebuild , the bearings are a bit noisy ,but it's a job that will get done one day. I fitted a power feed to mine for x y feed.

    edit
    Just noticed in this pic it has the Myford dividing attachment set up on the table . I use the Myford lathe milling slide to mount the attachment to the table .


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    Gee Eric I can't leave you alone for a moment!
    I sent you to that place because you wanted a drill and you come back with a milling machine instead. No wonder you can't be trusted to do the grocery shopping.
    Nice score though (the Myford indexing thing probably came from the ML10 that is there)

    Michael

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    HI,
    I found out recently (due to a number of these Machines pooping up for Sale on Various Sites) that they were Sold by a Variety of Retailers. It seems that the Machines are not necessarily from the same Manufacturer.
    My Boss has one Branded 'Herless' its a Model SM-1
    I have seen the same one Branded 'Hafco'
    Herless apparently had a couple of different Models: a Variable Speed one and a Belt Change one ie the SM-1
    I have seen a Belt Change one Branded 'Husky'
    Myford made a couple of different Models it seems they were the same Model base as the Herless ones.
    I have also seen one Branded Mcpherson.
    Minitech have a slighter smaller Version its called a X5015 from memory (there Website is not working properly.
    Chester has one called a 626.

    Does Your Machine have any Markings on it at all ?.
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    From memory I think there was a label branding it as Goldland or Goldmark (Gold something any). I remember when first seeing it thinking that it was a study looking little* machine but not recognising the brand.

    Michael

    *Eric, if ever you see my machines, you'll know why I say little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post
    Gee Eric I can't leave you alone for a moment!
    I sent you to that place because you wanted a drill and you come back with a milling machine instead. No wonder you can't be trusted to do the grocery shopping.
    Nice score though (the Myford indexing thing probably came from the ML10 that is there)

    Michael
    Michael, I must say thanks for pointing me at that shop. I still need a drill but finances are a little weaker now.


    I need to get this machine home. I have a gravel driveway about 30M long with overhanging house parts stopping any truck which is closed in from making it down the driveway. Luckily from what I can tell this machine is only about 450kg. A small open truck with a tailgate lifter would be idea.

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    Hi Eric,

    Nice looking mill, I can see your shed will be filling up fast

    The best I can recommend for a VFD to do the single to 3 phase conversion would be a Huanyang. Not that the quality is all that great, but they are cheap and plenty of them around.

    If you weren't in a hurry and wanted to get a deeper understanding, plus documentation and repairability, i'd be looking at the Silicon Chip build your own VFD project that started recently.

    From now on you can do my grocery shopping...

    Regards
    Ray

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    Ring up Black & White, They should have a ute with a lifter on it that will do the job. Just make sure they understand that it is top heavy. I had to 'advise' the guy who delivered my mill as he was a new arrival and did not have a clue.

    I just went in and looked at the T slots. I don't think it is a major issue (although irritating, yes). There is enough meat left that there is something to hang onto. One of your first projects may need to be making up some T nuts that are a snug fit so that vices etc are properly secured.
    The thing that may need to be changed is the riser device(s). A riser is good as it gives a little more flexibility to you. The best thing to use would be a piece of pipe or hollow bar. For piece 60mm long you'll probably pay more for the cutting than the material. The current stack of blocks of steel looks a little make do.
    Talk to Dave (the owner - has a beard) about the drill. He may be prepared to do a deal - after the money you've given him for the mill, the drill should almost be in the free steak knives category.

    Michael

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    I have the sale brochure for that mill down the shed, I will scan it latter for you and Kev.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    Hi Eric,

    Nice looking mill, I can see your shed will be filling up fast

    The best I can recommend for a VFD to do the single to 3 phase conversion would be a Huanyang. Not that the quality is all that great, but they are cheap and plenty of them around.

    If you weren't in a hurry and wanted to get a deeper understanding, plus documentation and repairability, i'd be looking at the Silicon Chip build your own VFD project that started recently.

    From now on you can do my grocery shopping...

    Regards
    Ray
    Ray,

    I will check out the Huanyang. I subscribe to Silicon Chip but my son keeps stealing them before I see them so I havent seen their VFD series yet. It is always nice to make your own electronics but as you know rarely cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave J View Post
    I have the sale brochure for that mill down the shed, I will scan it latter for you and Kev.

    Dave
    That would be briliant !!!! Thanks so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post
    Ring up Black & White, They should have a ute with a lifter on it that will do the job. Just make sure they understand that it is top heavy. I had to 'advise' the guy who delivered my mill as he was a new arrival and did not have a clue.

    I just went in and looked at the T slots. I don't think it is a major issue (although irritating, yes). There is enough meat left that there is something to hang onto. One of your first projects may need to be making up some T nuts that are a snug fit so that vices etc are properly secured.
    The thing that may need to be changed is the riser device(s). A riser is good as it gives a little more flexibility to you. The best thing to use would be a piece of pipe or hollow bar. For piece 60mm long you'll probably pay more for the cutting than the material. The current stack of blocks of steel looks a little make do.
    Talk to Dave (the owner - has a beard) about the drill. He may be prepared to do a deal - after the money you've given him for the mill, the drill should almost be in the free steak knives category.

    Michael
    Hi Michael,

    We must be crossing paths all over. I went to have another look today.

    I am hoping Black and White have something like a large ute with a 500kg lifter that would certainly solve all my problems (except perhaps getting the thing onto a pallet)

    The T-slots are as you say only irritating, It is just that I don't do irritated very welll I am thinking possibly having them machined out to the next size up.

    The riser blocks are a joke, as you say a piece of pipe or preferably hollow bar machined up should work well. I just got to work out how to hold something that size in my diminutive Myford super 7.

    I don't think I can push for a deal on the drill as I already got $250 off the asking price (as long as payment is in the folding stuff). But I will of course try

    Regards

    Eric

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    I have a mill which looks the same but has McMillan branded on it. Actually it is my sons but he uses my shed and I use his machines.
    Will try to find out more and post a pic.
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    Thinking about your T slots some more, a 5/8" T slot on a machine that size is more than I would have thought it would have (1/2" being the more usual). The lip, even on an undamaged section did not look to be as large as I would have expected and I can't work out how on a mill having a fixed table a cut can start chomping out a bit of one side of a T slot and then migrate to the other side on the traverse.
    I suspect that a previous owner has decided to take the slots out to 5/8" and has mucked up the set up on a larger machine (didn't align things properly).
    I'm not sure how to fix that one such that the fix is not more intrusive than the original fault.

    Michael

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    Michael,

    I agree with your thoughts on how the slots originally got messed up. I also agree that the lip even on an undamaged section did not look wide enough. Like you I am not sure how to rectify the issue with minimal risk.

    BTW I think the T-slots may have been taken out to 3/4" attached is a photo that I scaled that dimension of using the fact that the table is supposed to be 205mm wide.

    Eric

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