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11th Mar 2020, 08:06 PM #2371
Absolutely beautiful lathe, being out of the loop for several years, where they brand new or as new second hand?
I like the idea of the gears, but wonder if they would rattle around with just a oring holding them in place.Using Tapatalk
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11th Mar 2020, 08:35 PM #2372Gear expert in training
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It's a second hand machine, but barely used. I don't think there are many companies still building lathes like this; not a single bit of sheet metal to be seen, the entire base is cast as one piece and even the little door over the change gears is cast.
I don't think the gears would be spinning very fast, given that they're just for threading, but the O-ring groove on the shafts is positioned so that there's no axial play of any components. I'm confident that Schaublin wouldn't have done it that way if there was even the slightest chance of things rattling around.
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11th Mar 2020, 09:10 PM #2373Golden Member
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Tesa 1-2" mic
Not nearly as exciting as the Schaublin or Mikron is this tenths 1-2" mic. from my brother in law the other day - anything for free is good. Engraved on the back is 17.4.67 so I'm assuming 1967, I have mics made by Mitotoyo, Moore and Wright, Starret and Chuan and can't really detect a difference in the accuracy or operation between any of them, my goto mic is the Mitotoyo simply because is looks the most used. Will be interesting to see if I can pick the difference between this one and the others, somehow I doubt it - I don't doubt though that a proper machinist or toolmaker would be able to.
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11th Mar 2020, 09:11 PM #2374
I didn't think it was new, but everything looks new, right down to rust preservative on the gear in the picture.
I wonder if a oring nut would would work on a keyed shaft, probably not, but not something I've seen before.
My Chinese lathe has a fibreglass cover, not even sheet metal, lol
Do you know the approximate price paid from the company for this lathe? Just interested at what something like this is worth these days.
Also what size will it machine?Using Tapatalk
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11th Mar 2020, 10:20 PM #2375Gear expert in training
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You'll definitely enjoy it, I'm slowly building up a complete TESA mic set and they really are lovely to use.
One thing that does differentiate them from most others is that they use a friction clutch instead of a ratchet which can be more consistent, especially between different users
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11th Mar 2020, 10:34 PM #2376Gear expert in training
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Actually, now that you mention it, the coolant tank is fibreglass. I can't imagine that's how they came from the factory, but maybe...
The centre height is 125mm (that's how Schaublin do their model number on lathes) with 500mm between centres, but I think that actual area accessible by the carriage is a bit less.
I do know what we paid, but I don't think I can disclose it. The only one I've seen online that isn't "Call for price" was EUR 28,500 (just shy of AU$50k), let's just say we got a very good deal
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11th Mar 2020, 11:01 PM #2377
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6th Apr 2020, 03:16 PM #2378Diamond Member
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Lathe chuck, "brand new in box" :-)
A little rusty:
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Sadly, it doesn't fit my Hercus. The register/thread diameter is 1.5020", but pitch seems to be 6tpi.
No idea what that would fit
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6th Apr 2020, 03:44 PM #2379Senior Member
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4-Jaw
Looks very much like my 4-jaw, off a little H&F Chinese lathe.
I managed to cut a matching thread in steel to make a dog system.
What thread does the Hercus use?
Cheers
Roger
EDIT: My little Chinese H&F lathe uses all metric fasteners (of low quality), but the spindle IS 'Hercus standard': 1.5" 8tpi.
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6th Apr 2020, 04:20 PM #2380Diamond Member
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Hercus is 8tpi 1.5"OD, but a sharp 60° form in the valleys of the spindle.
Boxford is 8tpi, 1.5", 55°, and I think its a nicely curved form (i.e. WhitWorth).
Then there is Myford, and South Bend, which I do not have accurate specs on.
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6th Apr 2020, 06:27 PM #2381
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7th Apr 2020, 10:14 AM #2382
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5th Aug 2020, 08:42 PM #2383
Was ratting about today and came about the workshop stash of old MIG guns.
Got the OK to walk off with about a dozen of them, various styles mostly genuine Binzel (a workshop of discernible taste).Some of the old MB series and some of the newer generation ones.
The pile Included one where the ex-owner reckons 'it only welds overhead'.
Working thru the grubby old pile, it's apparent that most of them will be able to be donors for each other.
Current count is 2x Binzel 15 series. 2x 24 series, and a 36 series.
The one that 'only welded overhead' turned out to have a broken trigger mech- the little washer that is usually retained by a spring and a bit of a plastic tab had broken loose, and was flopping about inside the mech. When overhead, the washer could short out the trigger terminals, and welding was possible. So that's a score for me!
I'll put the copper bits back in the scrap bin, but have managed to rat some spares if ever needed- Euro nuts, back end assemblies and some other odds and sods. A new torch would run you upwards of 200 clams.
Pics of the FUBAR'd trigger- the more you know!
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5th Aug 2020, 09:01 PM #2384Most Valued Member
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5th Aug 2020, 09:10 PM #2385Diamond Member
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Yeah we use a MB24's and MB25's at work, they are not a bad gun, fairly common, parts cheap etc. We have genuine as well as aftermarket, the aftermarket guns seem to work well too. You can pick those up for under $70
The MB36's can be a bit heavy for light duty welding.
I'd probably only ever use a MB15 if access was an issue.