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  1. #2746
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    shed portion of the house reno is complete so time for a break from that so first piece of the next project

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    My latest toy which will be very useful in this project.

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    Sorry its sideways. Don't know how to rotate it in this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbuggermike View Post
    shed portion of the house reno is complete so time for a break from that so first piece of the next project

    IMG_20230127_203351_MP.jpg

    My latest toy which will be very useful in this project.

    IMG_20230127_203325_MP.jpg
    Sorry its sideways. Don't know how to rotate it in this forum
    Hello Mike, Check out this link...
    https://metalworkforums.com/f316/t20...sting-pictures
    Best Regards:
    Baron J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronJ View Post
    Tried that, see if the edit fixed it
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    It sure did

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    Prototype sorted, now to make about a dozen more
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    What are you making?

    Did you press/punch form them?

    Looks like someone machined a cap off a jam jar to me

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    They are lids for jam jars, I made them out of pickled onion jar lids….

    They are cover plates for pipes coming out of walls.
    I made a die set to press the recess and then hammer form the edge return around a buck made from one of the failed experiments from making the dies. The hole is drilled 8.5mm to start and then punched through with a 7/8” QMax

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    Definitely makes sense now

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    Figuring out how to get this off here is apparently my latest project, after just quickly nipping over to Cheltenham and back today

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    Fortunately, I actually got the original manual AND original inspection sheet listing the results of the Schleslinger tests.

    Unfortunately, after doing the drawing for the foundation, Manuel had a siesta, and neglected to mention exactly how one is supposed to sling the damn thing in order to get it on that foundation before they sent the manual off for print....

    Actually LIFTING it isn't a problem, that's a 4ton car hoist it's sitting in between. Figuring out where to sling.... Yeah. Doesn't really have any protruding castings where the column meets the ram, so slinging it Elliot style doesn't seem like it will work.

    Some thought best applied when I've had a nights sleep, I think.

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    How did you get it on the trailer?
    If you can't get it off I can come and and find away and return your trailer once I am done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidy41 View Post
    How did you get it on the trailer?
    If you can't get it off I can come and and find away and return your trailer once I am done.
    Little Vietnamese man with a forklift!

    I could always tie it to a tree and drive away... If it lands nose first, I'll just call it a vertical slotter instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidy41 View Post
    If you can't get it off I can come and and find away and return your trailer once I am done.
    That's NOT nice, but, I like it.
    To grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll and Hyde View Post
    Figuring out how to get this off here is apparently my latest project, after just quickly nipping over to Cheltenham and back today

    1675840492435.jpg

    Fortunately, I actually got the original manual AND original inspection sheet listing the results of the Schleslinger tests.

    Unfortunately, after doing the drawing for the foundation, Manuel had a siesta, and neglected to mention exactly how one is supposed to sling the damn thing in order to get it on that foundation before they sent the manual off for print....

    Actually LIFTING it isn't a problem, that's a 4ton car hoist it's sitting in between. Figuring out where to sling.... Yeah. Doesn't really have any protruding castings where the column meets the ram, so slinging it Elliot style doesn't seem like it will work.

    Some thought best applied when I've had a nights sleep, I think.
    Im a bit late to the party but i would pry it up and get slings underneath it. I hear you with old manuals not having lifting instructions, my bevel gear cutter is the worst, very top heavy and no lifting points, they must have assumed everyone would have a team of strong lads around to shift stuff.

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    In the photo it looks like there might be threaded holes in the base to take lifting eyes.

    Nice machine BTW - well done!!

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapatap View Post
    Im a bit late to the party but i would pry it up and get slings underneath it. I hear you with old manuals not having lifting instructions, my bevel gear cutter is the worst, very top heavy and no lifting points, they must have assumed everyone would have a team of strong lads around to shift stuff.
    I'm always leery of putting slings down low, in case the object manages to flip on it's side in the sling. I have seen things rotate inside chains and slings before...

    Probably not so much an issue with something the shape of this machine (probably just me being overly cautious at the best of times), and indeed I was trial fitting slings under the gearbox and then under the table, with a view to using blocks of wood on the table held up to the underside of the ram. Two things put a stop to that, one that the table appears to be a bit glued in place (or there's a 5th locking lever I missed!), but more importantly I realised my cunning plan was doomed to fail, as I didn't actually have quite enough lift height out of the hoist arms.

    Gravity and topography to the rescue! Will start a thread on this machine (and how I got it down!) sometime soon, mostly because there is next to NO information on these machines out there, even though the smaller version (Sacia L450E) was sometimes sold as an Atlas branded machine.

    I guess at the time (1967 for this one) most machines just got rolled around on pipe. I'd speculate cranes probably weren't really that common (other than shops handling BIG work) until OHS started putting a stop to 'put your back into it'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OxxAndBert View Post
    In the photo it looks like there might be threaded holes in the base to take lifting eyes.

    Nice machine BTW - well done!!

    Steve


    Just went and poked some of the grot out of the hole, and yep, threaded. I didn't even think to look, just assumed they'd be smooth bores.

    Even if I had seen the threads, I would have thought 'jacking bolts', never would have occurred to me to use them as lifting points, and that would probably work brilliantly.

    Where were you last night!

    And thanks, I'm pretty pleased with it thus far. Initial impressions and the back story suggest that it's probably in better nick than than the photos suggest too, which I'll get into when I start a thread for it.

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