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15th Jul 2019, 05:41 PM #1Senior Member
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Wanted: Milling machine / vertical mill
Hi there
I am in the market for a milling machine for hobby use in shed. Primary use if for making folding knives and jigs for knife making. If I buy new it would be something like a Sieg sx3 benchtop machine but if there are any small knee mills out there or benchtop machines you are looking to sell please let me know. This would be my first mill.
I am located in Tamworth but prepared to drive hundreds of km for the right machine. Budget is up to $2,500.
Please let me know if you think you have something or know of a machine.
Ian
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15th Jul 2019, 08:51 PM #2Most Valued Member
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Don't know the condition of it, but the rotary table alone would be worth the cost.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/east-maitland/miscellaneous-goods/denbigh-milling-machine/1223131822
Do you have 3 phase?
KrynTo grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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15th Jul 2019, 10:20 PM #3Senior Member
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Thank you Kryn
Yes I have a vfd that I could use to run one and saw that mill. I guess the size and my inexperience stopped me investigating further. Having no mill experience I thought that the vertical head being fixed and knee adjustment for height would potentially make it harder for vertical use where plunge cuts were being used. I was hoping to replace my drill presswith the mill allowing me to utilise space in the workshop better. With folding knives operations such as counterboring, drilling and plunge cuts are frequently used and I thought maybe this would be not so easy to use but maybe I am wrong?
i’d appreciate any thoughts on this model or similar ones without a quill like a benchtop mill or drill press has?
Ian
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15th Jul 2019, 11:02 PM #4Most Valued Member
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My mill only has a tiny quill travel of 60mm so i do a lot with the knee fixed. The only thing that really is hard without a quill is power tapping. You can get round that with a tapping head, but they use heaps of Z room so are not ideal.
Those Denbigh mills are tough, and not impossibly heavy but the thing you'll miss if drilling many small holes is the spindle RPM.
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15th Jul 2019, 11:07 PM #5Most Valued Member
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Just be aware that some of the minimills like the X2 etc, have plastic gears inside of them.
When you do find something acceptable to you, I'm pretty sure that some of the members on here would be only to happy to assist you by having a look at it with/for you.
KrynTo grow old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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15th Jul 2019, 11:29 PM #6Senior Member
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Thanks cask warrior for your comments - lots to consider.
Yes I am looking a the belt drive models with brushless dc motors sx2.7L or sx3.
My concern also also with a larger knee mill was maybe for intricate work using say a 4mm end mill to cut a groove in knife I would lose some feeling/feedback when in use - I am probably showing my inexperience here but putting a small pocket knife part on a significant sized machine just seemed a little above what I may need?
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15th Jul 2019, 11:41 PM #7Most Valued Member
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I don't think you lose any feel between something Bridgeport sized and a mini mill at all really. I have a super tiny astoba and it's really the same experience as my big mill only way less capable at removing material. It also does not have a quill so I've been getting a lot better at rigid drilling (and breaking taps).
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16th Jul 2019, 09:52 PM #8Most Valued Member
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I can't remember exact numbers, but from memory a 3mm solid carbide end mill wants to be spun at around 6000RPM. I don't have a mill, but I have milled slots in titanium with carbide end mills using a cross-slide mounted DC motor. If I didn't keep the revs up I got horrible chatter. If you will be milling exotics for your knifes I would look for something with the capability of high RPM.
Chris
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18th Jul 2019, 11:13 AM #9Senior Member
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Not sure if this is still there, a mate was asking my opinion of this Adcock and Shipley the other week....based on a partial picture of the tail-end! Can't imagine he can fit it in his place, but it was under your budget. You'd have to drive to Sydney if it's still available.IMG_3151.jpg
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18th Jul 2019, 04:14 PM #10Senior Member
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18th Jul 2019, 08:42 PM #11Senior Member
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Hi Ian, not sure what's going on, but can't quick reply or "normal" reply to the PM for some reason. If I don't hear from him tonight or tomorrow - left him a message - I'll visit on Saturday and see if I can get the contact for you. Cheers,
Bill.
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18th Jul 2019, 09:38 PM #12Senior Member
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