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    Cool thread.

    Cant help with the engine search.....will be after one myself i think !
    I have a mate up Ballarat way who has a nice litel Clevor motor (windsor dart block with local clevland aluminum heads on it.


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    [QUOTE=Ryan in Melbour;1909590]Cool thread.

    Cant help with the engine search.....will be after one myself i think !
    I have a mate up Ballarat way who has a nice litel Clevor motor (windsor dart block

    very nice how much work is there in fitting the Cleveland heads to the Windsor block?

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    azz, i think he said the heads were made locally?
    i have no idea when it comes to engines.

    google is giving me this though
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    [QUOTE=azzrock;1909593]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan in Melbour View Post
    Cool thread.

    very nice how much work is there in fitting the Cleveland heads to the Windsor block?
    I don't know about anything recent, but in the '70s there were a few things that needed to be done:

    1. Water passage outlets to the deck side of the heads needed to be sealed shut and new outlets to the intake manifold side needed to be opened.
    2. New pushrods needed to be made up due to the different deck height etc.
    3. A Boss 302 intake manifold was required.
    4. Pistons needed to be machined to provide valve clearance due to the different valve location in the heads.
    5. Pushrod guide plates/hardened pushrods were needed (I think) due to the different pushrod angles with the shorter deck on the Windsor block.
    6 Special extractors were required as the Cleveland was wider across the exhaust ports, and the Windsor ports were a different shape/position.

    Probably a lot of other details I've missed, as I haven't had much to do with this stuff for 30 years.

    Andrew.

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    got message back from Chris

    this is where the heads come from

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    Cool I might start a tread in the auto section

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    Quote Originally Posted by azzrock View Post
    Attachment 363385It for this project. A 69 ford pv.
    a Gm based car would make it cheaper.


    As as for the diff between the Cleveland and Windsor . The Windsor replaced the Cleveland.
    Incorrect the windsor in Australia came before the cleveland and had a reputation for throwing rods it was replaced by the cleveland in the early seventies the cleveland had big square looking heads and was much wider than the old windsor. Ford axed the v8 in the falcon and when it came back they used the windsor which was obviously better than the old windsor. Ps the clevelands had a weakness also in that when they are highly stressed the used to split bores so if buying a 2nd hnd clevo check the bore size to make sure it hasnt been bored as this weakens the cyls even more. The splits in the bore tend to start half way down vertically and when they reach the thicker metal at the bottom of the waterjacket they turn horizontally.

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