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    Easier to just weld a bolt to the nut and then just undo it. Plenty of my old boiler making mates would have it out in no time. The stud would most likely be good to go again, but shortening it a bit may be prudent if being too long was the cause of a lack of engagement with a hex key.

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    Left hand drill, easy out impact driver

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    Hi Ray,
    If we did that, it would be drilling the nut I guess, so would need to be a drill bigger than 1/2”.
    My mate hasn’t got back to me but he has read all your suggestions and says thanks.

    I’m not chasing him on this as it could turn out to be ‘interesting’.

    H.
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    Bit late to the party but..
    Id be grinding the head off the stud and belting it out from the back with a punch

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    Quote Originally Posted by racingtadpole View Post
    Bit late to the party but..
    Id be grinding the head off the stud and belting it out from the back with a punch

    How would you get to it?

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    Die grinder and long burr if necessary
    Yeah my punch it out from the back idea needs a bit more sophistication, a small threaded expansion jack placed between the disc and the stud. If that’s not possible drill and tap it from the front and put a bolt into it and get a slide hammer onto it.

    If you can get the head off the stud getting it out is somewhat less problematic.

    Depending on how worn the rotors were I’d consider just drilling through it to get a drift in

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    Quote Originally Posted by racingtadpole View Post
    Die grinder and long burr if necessary
    Yeah my punch it out from the back idea needs a bit more sophistication, a small threaded expansion jack placed between the disc and the stud. If that’s not possible drill and tap it from the front and put a bolt into it and get a slide hammer onto it.

    If you can get the head off the stud getting it out is somewhat less problematic.

    Depending on how worn the rotors were I’d consider just drilling through it to get a drift in
    Easier said than done.

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    G'day HB,
    My F.I.L.'s latest adventures reminded me of your struggles, in this thread...!
    We went to service the front brakes on his (~3 y.o.) Triton.
    On the RHS, one stud snapped clean off, another is SPINNING in the hub/rotor.
    Bit of a pickle...
    Gorilla tyre fitters to blame, being lazy about selecting rattle gun settings.

    Good luck!
    A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewOC View Post
    Gorilla tyre fitters to blame, being lazy about selecting rattle gun settings.
    where do they get those apes? How hard can it be to correctly torque a nut when you’re doing it all day? I don’t expect them to get an accurate torque setting with a rattle gun, but why wrench it up to the point of damaging the studs?
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    where do they get those apes? How hard can it be to correctly torque a nut when you’re doing it all day? I don’t expect them to get an accurate torque setting with a rattle gun, but why wrench it up to the point of damaging the studs?

    Because more ugga dugga’s are always better !
    There is quite a reputation of tyre shops doing exactly this.

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    I’ve always carried a decent wheel brace and piece of pipe.
    If I’m there when tyre fitters etc are finishing I’ll do it myself.( with just the brace).
    The pipe is for when I’m not and getting older it’s easier to stand on the extension than do the back in.
    H.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    where do they get those apes? How hard can it be to correctly torque a nut when you’re doing it all day? I don’t expect them to get an accurate torque setting with a rattle gun, but why wrench it up to the point of damaging the studs?
    It probably boils down to a lack of training and supervision, more than anything else. The average tyre fitter would most likely have started out as an unskilled manual labourer. It's not too often that they might have had a trade background, they probably got the job because they were strong young blokes, who could handle a truck or grader wheel if necessary. If training is sparse, and the importance of correct torquing up is not explained, checked regularly and reinforced, over tightening will occur possibly because under tightening might have a more spectacular and immediate result.

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