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    Default Melbourne Foundry Suppliers

    One of the problems trying to get a toehold on metal casting is the difficulty in finding out who has what products. (more to the point what do I need!)

    Here is an incomplete list, I am just listing those places that I have actually been to and bought stuff, there are many other suppliers, if you know of any, here is your chance to post some info.

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    CMA Eco Cycle
    5-10 Reo Cresent
    Campbellfield Vic 3061
    Phone 03 9308 9415

    They sell ingots of various metals with a guaranteed alloy composition.
    Aluminium ingots $3.50 per Kg
    Silicon Bronze $8.50 per Kg

    For obvious reasons pick up is probably desirable. I bought some scrap bronze from our local scrap dealer and that was $5 per Kg for unknown scrap alloy, for only a slight increase, you know what alloy you are dealing with..

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    CMS (Cast Metal Services)
    20 Marni Street
    Dandenong South 3175
    Telephone 03 9706 6440

    Petrobond in 25 Kg pails $4.45 per Kg
    Bentonite in 25 Kg bags (Foundry Grade) $0.75 per Kg
    Parting Powder in 25 Kg bags (pretty cheap) but talcum powder works well also.
    Ceramic Filters 10 ppi (pores per inch) $15 each (used to filter crud while pouring)


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    Pinches Alloys
    21 Malua Street
    Reservoir 3073
    03 9460 2466

    ITC-100 High Temperature reflective coating $80 per pint
    ITC-200 High Temperature ceramic repair $80 per pint

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    Foseco
    19-21 Nicole Way
    Dandenong 3175
    03 9792 4033

    Pyrocrete (various grades and temperature ratings) the 1650 Deg C was $60 per 25 Kg bag

    Nitral C19 Aluminium degassing tablets, degasses Aluminium prior to casting $18 per Kg (comes as a pack of big round tablets, that can be broken into smaller bits for smaller crucibles.

    A4 clay graphite crucible $35.75, they also have Silicon Carbide crucibles which are more robust but lower temp. (ok for non-ferrous, just not cast iron)

    They also carry fluxes, of various types and heaps of other foundry stuff that I dont have a clue as to what it does... I did notice some preformed tapered pouring sprues which I think are used with the ceramic fiters. Some of the fluxes, are for topping off after a pour, and some I think are use to top off the crucible before pouring (must find out!)

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    Thermal Ceramics
    Factory 3-4 111-113 William Angliss Drive
    Laverton North 3026
    03 9360 0355

    These guys sell ceramic fibre blanket material, like Kaowool etc. Each product has a specific temperature rating, the stuff I got was CeraChem 1425, which comes as a roll in a box 7.6 meters x 610mm 25mm thick and is rated to 1425 degC, they also sell a range of other high temperature ceramic products. The roll of CeraChem 1425 was $160 plus GST

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    Some of these companies have web sites, but none that I have seen provide on-line ordering, and when we are talking 25 kg bags of stuff, the best idea, seems to me, is go and pick up directly. I would make sure to ring beforehand to make sure that what you want is in stock and what the price is.

    Regards
    Ray

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    Nice work Ray. We have a foseco here in Canberra, I was going to post asking where to get degassing tablets but now i know!

    My petrobond arrives on Monday. Very excited.

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    Just wondering if anyone knows of, or could create, a similar list for Sydney, in particular anywhere that supplies hobbyist quantities of bentonite for making green sand.

    BTW CMS seems to no longer exist - the address and phone number now belongs to
    Arnott & Guy Foundry Supplies

    and they don't seem to have a Sydney outlet.

    Cheers,

    Gary

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    I've been quoted outrageous prices for bentonite from garden shops, but bought it cheaply from a fodder supplier. Don't know if it's the right grade...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    I've been quoted outrageous prices for bentonite from garden shops, but bought it cheaply from a fodder supplier. Don't know if it's the right grade...
    Thanks for the prompt reply Bryan, but, at the risk of sounding completely dumb, what exactly is a "fodder supplier"?

    Edit: Oh dear scratch that - of course - animal fodder - unfortunately we don't see too many of those in the inner-city suburbs of Sydney (there aren't many foundries any more either )

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    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Thanks for the prompt reply Bryan, but, at the risk of sounding completely dumb, what exactly is a "fodder supplier"?
    It's where you buy animal feed and other farm supplies. They may be thin on the ground in metro Sydney.

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    Ha ha yes, as you can see above I eventually googled it, but I should have known it - I used to watch "Greenacres" after all...

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    How about:

    Fodder King‎
    1/554 Marrickville Rd
    Dulwich Hill NSW 2203
    (02) 9569 7400
    fodderking.com.au‎

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    Oh, and the garden shops don't (as far as I have been able to ascertain) sell bentonite either (I had heard that one from elsewhere) - strange - but I suppose it is generally used for water retention which would be unusual around here - I did find some perlite for building a foundry though and considered myself fortunate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    How about:

    Fodder King‎
    1/554 Marrickville Rd
    Dulwich Hill NSW 2203
    (02) 9569 7400
    fodderking.com.au‎
    Well that's just down the road from me I go past there all the time - if they sell it I'll stand on my head and spin like a top - not a pretty sight - but worth a look (Fodder King not me on my head). It maybe they are just the head office and don't retail, but I will very definitely check.

    But see? that is the LAST place I would have thought to look. Thanks again.

    Gary

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    Isn't some of the kitty litters made from granulated bentonite clay?.

    Edit: Some of the other kitty litters are silica gel which can be made into waterglass for casting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graziano View Post
    Isn't some of the kitty litters made from granulated bentonite clay?.

    Edit: Some of the other kitty litters are silica gel which can be made into waterglass for casting.
    They are mostly attapulgite clay here, but I did eventually find one that says it is bentonite - but because it is in "clumps" I still need a ball mill or similar to get it into the right powdery format I believe.

    Edit: "clumps"?? please no jokes about not using second hand kitty litter (what was I thinking?)
    Last edited by garym; 28th Sep 2010 at 06:43 PM. Reason: foot in mouth disease

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    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    because it is in "clumps" I still need a ball mill or similar to get it into the right powdery format I believe.
    Flog the missus' blender and disappear it into the shed for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Just wondering if anyone knows of, or could create, a similar list for Sydney, in particular anywhere that supplies hobbyist quantities of bentonite for making green sand.
    You can get bentonite from ceramic or pottery suppliers in small quantities.

    Walker Ceramics

    Potters Equipment: citysearch

    Clayworks Australia

    Northcote Pottery | Choose your site

    Dunno about Sydney places. Google is your freind.
    anne-maria.
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    (White with none)
    Follow my little workshop/gallery on facebook. things of clay and wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graziano View Post
    Flog the missus' blender and disappear it into the shed for good.
    I would but the dog absolutely loathes company in the evenings.

    OTOH the idea of turning an $8 bag of kitty litter into a $5.00 bag of bentonite by ruining a $120.00 blender, DOES seem attractive...

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