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    Default 22" Camelback Drill press

    Hi All,
    I am planning to do a quick clean and paint of the drill. I did not want to paint it just yet but the old paint is literally falling off in places so i will.

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    Drive for the gearbox
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    The main spindle is MT3

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    Thrust race bearing on the bottom, there is a fiber washer on top

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    Fine feed worm and gear, plus the bevels gears for the auto feed

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    3 speed gearbox for feeds, not sure how it works just yet.

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    Thats it for now,

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    Hi Ewan,

    Welcome to the Hercus club. Your drill will probably be the cheapest pound for pound Hercus product you buy. You'll need a Hercus vice:

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MILLING-V...c0a4b50&_uhb=1

    Ben

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    Default Very Nice

    Ewan
    A very nice purchase.
    There is satisfaction about bringing something this good back into service, & the flat belt drive, beauty!
    A solid well made machine, good for those big drilling jobs.
    regards
    Bruce

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    I'm glad you bought it Ew. I've always been fond of the 22. There is one for sale on Gumtree over here, my suburb, but the sellers is chasing 2 large or "realistic" offers.

    Back in my woody days I used to dream of having a drill like the one shown in a photo of Wilbur and Orville Wright's workshop. The photo, one of a couple in a 60's Time Life book on flight, was wonderfully evocative. The drill, resplendent in black paint and oiled steel, could have been a Cannedy-Otto* though numerous manufacturers made similar drills.

    This is a photo from www.wright-brothers.org of the shop.

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    I will look forward to your posts on the revitalization of the Hercus.

    Bob.

    *http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/153/1175.pdf

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    The drill is pretty well stripped bare now.

    All the gears are in top shape, no damage to be seen anywhere.

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    The gearbox shifter uses an interesting method to engage each gear. The gears are always in mesh. The driving shaft is keyed to the driven gear, and then has a short spring loaded key. By sliding the shaft the small sprung key engages with a keyway in one of the 3 gears.

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    Pics at various stages of dis-assembly

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    I had to use the quill to drive the power feed take off gear off the bevel gear.....

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    The table looks really good, no chain drilling here!

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    The gantry crane is becoming really useful

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    The counter weight for the quill return is bigger than i expected

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    These are the nifty little oilers all over it, unfortunately one has been broken off at some stage. Shouldn't be to hard to make a replacement that looks something like right....

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    Thats all for now,

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    That table is certainly out of the ordinary Ew. There was a 22 close by at the local boat yard on the Swan. The table would not have had a square inch of surface that wasn't riddled with drill holes. When I first saw the drill I got all excited thinking should I ask the old salt who owned it, whether he'd let it go. Then on closer inspection, I saw the table.

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    Great post EW
    Just about to do the same. Bought the machine that anorak bob mentioned. The price they were asking was unrealistic, so I made them an offer what I thought it was worth and surprisingly they accepted.

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    My Drill has a few problems broken handle to engage feed, missing depth collar, guard to top of quill and no counter weight. Could you weigh your counter weight, save me guessing and any pictures of my missing parts would be appreciated
    Regards Allan

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    Hi Allan,
    I'll post the details of the weight now while I'm in the shed, and I'll take some pics of the parts and post them later.

    The weight is a 400mm length of 65 dia steel. The chain is just bicycle chain or similar, it measures 780 from the top of the weight to the last link that pins into the quill.

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    Here are the pics of the guard, collar and feed lever. The "extra" bit on the collar hits the feed lever and disengages the feed at the pre set point, or before the drill destroys itself....

    Oh, and the weight is about 9.5kg.

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    Thanks Ew
    excellant photos, they will be a great help. Once again many thanks
    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Hi Allan,
    I'll post the details of the weight now while I'm in the shed, and I'll take some pics of the parts and post them later.

    The weight is a 400mm length of 65 dia steel. The chain is just bicycle chain or similar, it measures 780 from the top of the weight to the last link that pins into the quill.

    Cheers,
    Ew
    Hi Ewan,
    Don't you mean 15 3/4" long by 2 1/2" diameter and 15 3/4" from the top of the weight.
    Oh, you can also slide 21 lb in there as well

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post
    Hi Ewan,
    Don't you mean 15 3/4" long by 2 1/2" diameter and 15 3/4" from the top of the weight.
    Oh, you can also slide 21 lb in there as well

    Phil
    Hi Phil,
    Whats funny is that it does actually measure 65mm, not 63.5 (2 1/2")

    The bolts are all whitworth though, so the poor old girl has had the shifter treatment in a lot of places, but as i have found out metric sockets fit whitworth heads very well, at least for the sizes i have been using!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Hi Phil,
    Whats funny is that it does actually measure 65mm, not 63.5 (2 1/2)

    Ew
    Lol
    I would love to say it must be a retrofit but I just couldn't be sure.

    Phil

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    Well after a week and a half of ignoring the drill and playing with the Holbrook, i decided i'd better get the drill back together. My excuse was i wanted to use the C10's TTA to turn some new taper pins. It worked a treat, with a sharp HSS tool i was easily able to turn the pins with no chatter or flexing, even though the pins are 1 1/2 long and 3/16" at the small end. I was feeding at a small .0009" per rev though.....

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    Ueee,
    That drill sure cleaned nicely,did you use electrolysis or just a lot of hand work. The gears look really clean,almost like new. Great work a credit to you.Looking forward to seeing it operating.
    Bob

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