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    Quote Originally Posted by simonl View Post
    ... I find it hard to believe that someone would build a commercially made log splitter and sell it as legally towable and charge $17,500 if it were not actually legal...

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HYDRAULI...p2047675.l2557

    Even the splitter I attached above states this:

    Construction Specifications
    Rugged heavy duty construction for a lifetime of trouble free use. Covered by 2 years warranty
    Approved 50mm, 2000kg rated cast iron coupling
    185 x 14 wheels & hubs. Handles all towing requirements

    Neither of the above have suspension. I'm thinking I'm pretty safe?
    Hi Simon
    I think there is a big difference between "handling all towing requirements" and being registrable for on-road use.
    For one, the trailer in your ebay link, doesn't appear to conform with at least some of the registration requirements.
    "All wheels of a trailer must be fitted with wheel guards that are designed to protect other road users against thrown-up stones, mud, ice, snow and water and to help prevent people contacting the moving wheels."
    nor does the trailer have lights or reflectors.

    I think that the examples you are looking at are classified as "farm machinery" which have very restricted access to public roads.
    regards from Canmore

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    Hi Ian,

    This is part of the description in the add..

    New lights are wired up to suit std 7 pin plug
    This unit is towable and can be road registered if needed



    Girl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    Hi Simon, you did realise that that document refers to requirements for light trailers manufactured before July 1991 ?
    No. Buggar I didn't realise that.

    I have taken more care to look up the up to date document this time! It's got alot more detail but still no mention of suspension requirements for a single axle trailer with an ATM less than 0.75T

    Unless anyone can show me where it says that a single axle trailer with an ATM of less than 0.75T needs some form of suspension, I'm still thinking I'm good. I'm feeling pretty confident right about now.

    Here's the link:

    https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/.../vsb_01_b.aspx

    Cheers,

    Simon
    Girl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.

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    Personally, I'd get a professional opinion.
    Reading the VicRoads trailer registration info pack, where you could come to grief is being "qualified" to sign the certification that the trailer complies with VSB 1.

    Then there is the issue of towing speed, stability and vibration -- some or all of which may require a suspension of some sort.
    It would be a real bugger to front for registration and be knocked back.

    Also, I'd be surprised if the rear overhang on this unit complies with the requirements.



    The question at the end of the day, is how many of these splitters are actually registered for use on road?
    regards from Canmore

    ian

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    Oh. So you are suggesting that people like myself should not build their own trailer because we don't have a "qualification"?

    21.2 Rear Overhang

    Dog Trailers
    Rear overhang must not exceed the lesser of 3.7 metres or 60% of the wheelbase.


    Nothing wrong with the overhang according to this, although I wouldn't necessarily like to tow it around the city.

    Once again, please show me where it says I need suspension in writing....

    Simon
    Girl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.

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    Note these are pig trailers, not dog trailers. For those, the rule is the lesser of 3.7m or the front load space. So you can have heaps of rear overhang, provided you have the same amount in front.

    I was a little surprised about the registrability of that trailer, as it didn't have mudguards.

    That said, when it does come to registering it, in NSW it needs to pass inspection by an authorised person, so it would come down to how they interpret VSB1.

    I'll ask a mate who worked in the regulation side of things about the suspension issue - regs aside, I'd be a bit concerned about belting along at speed with nothing to absorb bumps in the road except for the tyres and a bit of flex in the axle and chassis.

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    Anyway..... back OT,

    I will be extending the axles using a piece of pipe and adding some re-enforcement.

    Thanks everyone for the replies and suggestions.

    Simon

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonl View Post
    Oh. So you are suggesting that people like myself should not build their own trailer because we don't have a "qualification"?

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    Once again, please show me where it says I need suspension in writing....
    I see the conversation with VicRoads going like this ...

    you -- "I'd like to register this here trailer. Here's me paper work."
    VicRoads -- "thank you sir. But this paperwork is for a light trailer. What you have there is an agricultural implement. You can't use this paperwork to register it."

    Reading between the lines of this document https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/~/media/files/documents/business-and-industry/agricultural-trailers-brochure_web.pdf?la=en as the trailer manufacturer, you are strongly advised to include a suspension. You are not required to include a suspension, but it's difficult to see how you (as the manufacturer) could rate the implement for towing any faster than about 30 km/h without a suspension.

    But, by the same token, you may be exempt from registration. As I said above, in your shoes, I'd be seeking professional advice.
    regards from Canmore

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    Thanks Ian.

    Simon
    Girl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.

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    The local hire place....

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