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    Default Makita tool less AG locking flange

    I decided to upgrade my Makita angle grinders , 1 x 115 and 1x 125.

    A while back there was a Makita tool less A/grinder locking flange nut.

    I have looked in catalogues all over the place and in our local Mitre 10, Bunnings and the local Sydney tools and the that type of Makita flanges have seemed to have disappeared.

    I am not seeking the flange nuts that utilise the pin spanners (got them) or the new X lock system, but instead the hand operated lock nut.

    Do any of our members have any information on these locking flanges.

    Theres plenty of pin spanner and x lock solutions around but the Makita non tool flanges seemed to have disappeared.

    Was there are call because of safety concerns or perhaps the intention is to push the loyal Makita users to X lock.

    Maybe I have not searched for long enough.

    Milwaukee have a version but I think their A/ grinders spindle thread is different or so the Sydney tools salesman said today.

    Any information will be indeed appreciated.

    Thanks

    Grahame

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    If the Makita is M14 then this will also suit I imagine.

    https://www.amazon.com.au/Milwaukee-...cx_mr_hp_atf_m
    Nev.

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    Metabo has their quick-nut which is the M14 thread, but the spindle has two machines grooves, one each side.
    These ones work by pressing the grinder lock button as the wheel spins down. Jars it loose and easy as.

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    Thank you droog and Commander Keen and Surfin Nev.
    I was focusing on the Makita for a reason but will be following up with the suggestions you have given me.

    As my arthritis and lack of dexterity gets worse using the pin spanners has beome difficult and painful.

    I am still wondering about the obvious lack of presence of this Makita product.

    The Makita tool less flanges were not hard to find a while back but now seem to have disappeared completely from online catalogues.

    Either we ( loyal Makita brand buyers) are being channeled towards the purchase of an Makita system X lock or there has been a BIG problem or failure of the Makita tool less flange. Are these Makita flanges like the Metabo flanges described by Commander Keen and become "loose as" ?

    If the withdrawal of the product with out additional information is as I say, then any respect I had for Makita has swirled away down the toilet.

    Thanks again gentlemen for your inputs.

    Grahame

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    Not sure what the makita ones are like, but the metabo quick nut works well, with a few limitations as they grow old:
    1)You get a good positive lock on the wheel - the quickm nut has a spring loaded collar ring which gives a heap of clamping force.
    2)With use the knurling can wear away making it harder to grip. I'm still young and agile but find myself getting the channel locks on them if really stubborn.
    3)Tightening usually involves locking the spindle and twisting the wheel. Loosening can be done with the spindle lock being activated as grinder spins down (at low revs) to shock the nut loose. I'm not sure what magic lives inside, but it works.

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    A bit harder to find but looks like the Makita one can still be had.

    https://spares.unitedtoolsburleigh.c...nders-195354-9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahame Collins View Post

    ...As my arthritis and lack of dexterity gets worse using the pin spanners has beome difficult and painful

    Grahame
    I generally dont use a spanner to tighten or loosen it , i find it easier to do it with hand just crack it ,that includes using the electric grinder. Its easier to do it if you have welding gloves on. This method maybe a bit easier if you have trouble using the spanner on it. The problem with using the spanner is you have hold the grinder with one hand , lock the button so the disc doenst move and then line up the holes and keep it flush and then pull or push it. Another trick is use vice grips on the nut , that is easier than using the pin spanner.

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    Graeme, do your grinders actually have M14 threads? Or are they M10? There are two versions of M10 threads on grinders: M10x1.25 and M10x1.5
    As far as I can tell, ALL M14 threaded grinders are M14x2 and their tool-less nut variants are easy enough to get. I suspect the M10 tool-less nuts are pretty well impossible to get. In fact I've never seen one....
    Cheers, Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Graeme, do your grinders actually have M14 threads? Or are they M10? There are two versions of M10 threads on grinders: M10x1.25 and M10x1.5
    As far as I can tell, ALL M14 threaded grinders are M14x2 and their tool-less nut variants are easy enough to get. I suspect the M10 tool-less nuts are pretty well impossible to get. In fact I've never seen one....

    One of these in the green shed at K-flat
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/kango-m1...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

    I was after the M14 and they only had the M10

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    The AEG grinders I've used came with a quick nut exactly like the Kango ones posted above - they work well, only thing is they might be slightly bulkier than the pin style atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Graeme, do your grinders actually have M14 threads? Or are they M10? There are two versions of M10 threads on grinders: M10x1.25 and M10x1.
    Hi Jim,
    I knew that the the diameters were larger than 10mm , just by eye.

    This pair of grinders are different threads again. They are 9500B grinders which came out about twenty years ago as near as I can tell. I Googled the 9500B specs on the American Makita site and got 5/8 UNC -11tpi.

    Something not right there either as the threads are way smaller than 14mm.

    I measured across the thread diameter first using vernier calipers and got 13.7mm diameter and thought better of it and used my micrometer and read 13.73mm diameter. My guess there are buggr all of this model around ( with these specs) and consequently no suitable threaded flange of the type I seek.

    I have to find my pitch gauge so I will follow up when i have the pitch reading.

    Grahame

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    I'd be extremely surprised if they were imperial threads. I have two 9500s from more than 20 years ago. All threads are metric.
    13.7 is probably right for a worn M14. But 11tpi is 2.3mm pitch which isn't. Something is odd.
    Cheers, Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Keen View Post
    Metabo has their quick-nut which is the M14 thread, but the spindle has two machines grooves, one each side.
    These ones work by pressing the grinder lock button as the wheel spins down. Jars it loose and easy as.
    My Metabo 5" has that nut, but I've never been brave enough to try the grinder lock trick, as I can't see how it's not going to damage the lock mechanism over time. My other corded 5" is a Flex variable speed, and it came with that Kango nut. My most recent 5" is a 40V Makita battery unit that came with the traditional nut, which I'll have to upgrade to one of them Kango ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyArc View Post
    My Metabo 5" has that nut, but I've never been brave enough to try the grinder lock trick, as I can't see how it's not going to damage the lock mechanism over time.
    JUST SEND IT!!!
    I just slam it in when it's within a second or two of coming to a stop. It's the jarring motion that does the trick.
    The pin on these ones are much more stout than the little 4mm dia pins of a standard one.

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