Thread: What is better than Unimig

Thanks Guys

Karl the unimig just seems so basic and almost outdated now with the 3 dials and no screen i am in full swing now asto using the mig is a piece of cake i would like to advance with todays technology, it almost seems the razor 200 was built on 10-20 yeah old technology just as an inverter and not a transormer machine

I have put the unimig up for sale if i get a fair price i will purchase the kemppi evo 170 or 200 or the esab c200i

Yeah why bother upgrading if you still end up with the same style of machine in the end. The only reason I would change out the unimig you are currently using was if I was upgrading to a pulse mig.

I've seen guys fail weld tests using machines worth over $10000 before.

If you have shakey hands, bad eyes, wrong welding technique or not following welding procedures you are not going to get good results, it's as simple as that.

Probable the best thing for you to do would be to do a tafe course.


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Originally Posted by Mk1_Oz

A welder is kept for a long time. Buy the Kempi and work out the cost over 15 years - sounds so much nicer

The only problem is that it might be just 15 months! Trust me, buy the cheapest DOUBLE PULSE MIG on Ebay and learn what DOUBLE PULSE is and what it does. The Fronius machines, in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing, can put down fantastic welds. Pulse welding variables are huge and what I use, maybe very different to another welder. It's too early to waste money, but just right to learn.

I am a bit poor at the noment so was hopping the sale of the unimig razor would pay for 1/3rd of the kemppi i still don't have a sale and its a bit awkward to get a sale in hard lockdown but i may drop my price

I'm considering the

Kemppi 170 evo mig $1930
Unimig 180 ac/dc tig $1400
And a cheap ebay pulse mig $2100

The thing with the kemppi its todays technology and will i want a double pulse mig tomorrow?

Originally Posted by gazza2009au

I am a bit poor at the noment so was hopping the sale of the unimig razor would pay for 1/3rd of the kemppi i still don't have a sale and its a bit awkward to get a sale in hard lockdown but i may drop my price

I'm considering the

Kemppi 170 evo mig $1930
Unimig 180 ac/dc tig $1400
And a cheap ebay pulse mig $2100

The thing with the kemppi its todays technology and will i want a double pulse mig tomorrow?

I was once like you, I bought the most expensive machine in the world! I spent all mine time learning to use it. Total waste of time, an old bullet or pie warmer will teach you faster. A Kemppi is nice, but it will disappoint you, until you learn to use it. That doesn't mean tacking and welding scrap!
Can you lay a mig weld, manually pulsing that looks like a tig weld? I've seen some that look like a series of spot welds, not like beads.

If i could weld like that i wouldnt be looking to buy a pulse welder

I am possibly going to buy this pulse welder its $1000 cheaper than the next affordable pulse mig in oz

https://au-m.banggood.com/MIG-200AL-...r_warehouse=CN

I want a full review once it lands and you get a chance to give it a solid whirl. I'm inherently skeptical of stuff like this, but will be pleased to hear how it stacks up.

Hopefully it comes with the AU plug and all those extra 'passwords' for the different modes it mentions in the fine print.
Don't forget your U groove rollers too...

I will grab either that one from banggood or a Riland 180 pulse mig they are on youtube machine cost AUD$625 plus shipping but its realistically only a 160 amp machine good for 3mm aluminium but less than $1000 landed it may be ok for light work

In the questions section it states that it is the base for the Magnum welder. Might be better to look at their website at least it has proper specs.
https://www.magnumwelders.com.au/pro...?product_id=79

Also appears their version has the features enabled and not reliant on sending an email to a personal email address to request the upgrade password. Who knows how much they cost, the seller certainly isn’t advertising the cost.

Here is the AUD$625 Riland pulse mig the pulse is very basic there are no parameters the pulse is just built into the aluminium mig setting, in mig aluminium pulse synergic mode u can only adjust arc force for more/less burn in

There are videos on youtube i will link below

https://youtu.be/BFanqlBjfeE

Just recieved a quote and shipping the machine is USD$461, Shipping is USD$255

Works out at todays exchange AUD$960

This is for the Riland 180 pulse mig (160 amp machine)

I ended up buying this ac/dc tig welder https://www.australiaindustrialgroup...elding-machine thought it may be a bit risky sinking 1k on a welder from china directly and getting a faulty machine

I'm going to see if i can run the stack of dimes ormig like a tig using the unimig and try use a camera tripod to steady my hand

Thought i would post here instead of the generator thread, had a go at the EWM 180 pulse mig today i only had fluxcore so could only test that

Ran 5 beads, 2 not hot enough, 2 too hot with melt through, last weld bang on, this machine is next to silent i thought my drive feed wasnt working it was that quiet i had to look at the rollers moving..

I still cant see anytging when welding with fluxcore all i see is the wire and the stuff u knock off the weld cant see the pool but still managed some beads just going off pace

I had to use the manual job list program 188 wich is manual mode as i had .9mm wire the machines synergic is set for .8mm, 1.0mm etc..

Machine was easy to set up, polarity pictured worked with heaps of balls around the weld, changing the polarity just made the weld zap.. zap.. zap.. couldnt find the right polarity on the miller welding calculator

Material was 2.5 or 3mm flat bar steel

Great choice in machine, I knew you had it in ya!

I have not run gasless thru mine, but looking at it, you'd want job 172 dialed in, and hit the left button until the material thicc dial comes, up, then dial it into your chosen thickness. This will get you ball-park (which I've found is almost bang-on in most cases), then you can do a voltage trim with the right dial. Usual gasless rules apply- 12mm stickout, reverse polarity etc

If your pic you posted is how you were running it, you are in DCEP mode. you probably want DCEN for self shielded fluxcore wire- just put your short pigtail in the negative port, and the earth clamp in the positive.
You can adjust burnback in the expert menu behind the scenes, if you need to - IIRC power the machine on while holding gas test button, plus the bottom right selector button. Been a while since I've needed to bugger about with those functions, plus my model is quite a few years older