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    Default Tig Welding gas (Argon)

    Hi Guys,
    I know this topic has been done to death however looking in the search function I am finding it hard to find the info I'm looking for exactly.
    I know there will be other guys looking for the info as well in a similar situation.
    Atm I have the size D gas bottle from Bunnings. $200 for bottle and $99 for gas. I would like to get a more cost effective size bottle, I'm thinking Size E.
    I don't want to rent because I am a hobbyist and could take along time to use the gas potentially.
    I am in Sydney and would like to find outlets( Sydney tools, total tools?) I can buy the bottle and return when empty similar to Bunnings and swap out for a nominal fee
    If I give he bottle back I get back the original purchase price of the bottle minus the gas.
    Thanks in Advance.
    Max

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    I get mine from Total Tools. Started off on E and when I ran that dry too quickly I paid the difference at refill time and took away a G instead. No rental, and it’s pretty cheap per little in the larger size.

    I really liked that I could start off on a smaller size and not really be penalised if I had to go larger. Wasn’t sure how much I would go through.

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    I had thought (could be wrong) that Bunnings also did E size. I prefer Bunnings myself for gas as they are open 7 days and I always seem to run out of gas on a Sunday...

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.C. View Post
    I get mine from Total Tools. Started off on E and when I ran that dry too quickly I paid the difference at refill time and took away a G instead. No rental, and it’s pretty cheap per little in the larger size.
    Did exactly the same thing for both my MIG and TIG gas. Total Tools changed their suppliers between my original E size and G sizes but there was no problem returning the original cylinders. Total Tools is also open 7 days in SA, but not for the hours that the big green store is. Bunnings do an E size but not a G.

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    BOC D E or G size plans. D size is $108. E is $199 (this is what I'm on- get an included refill each year with no deposit- and there are plenty of gas agents around in the areas I work)
    Bunnings trade gas in D (what you're on- this is Coregas)
    Air Liquide do the AlBee offer. D's only if I remember correctly. Deposit offer. Cant remember prices when i enquired.
    Don't think supergas do anything like that.
    Speed Gas via Total Tools / Sydney tools- same , different stink.
    Power 10.
    PureGas.
    Ebay peddlers ("chuck it in a box and post it back to us- she'll be right maaaaate")
    Then there is the disposables if you want to pay the equivalent of 11ty billion per cubic meter of product...

    IMO Deposit is just rent disguised as ownership- usually 1-3 years the annual rental cost. In the end of the day, if you have a speedgas bottle, only speedgas will fill it or take it off you. When you read the fine print, you never actually 'own' a cylinder, you just buy into their scheme (basically buy a share in their cylinder fleet and become a liability on their balance sheet). It's like the miners of old days- get paid in scrips and only being able to spend them at the mine store

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    Thanks guys, awesome information. Another reason I really like this forum. I will look into my "local" tool shop for gasTig Welding gas (Argon)

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

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    I swapped my Bunnings D argon for an E, easy as pie, only drawback it the E's are $300.00 deposit so had to pay an extra $100.00 on top of the fill. Beauty is I can swap between types or return full stop and get my full deposit back at any time. I'm a low level user and an E cyiliner will last me between 12 to 18 months so the slightly higher fill price doesn't matter to me. Not a lot of things I like about the green shed but their Coregas deal is definitely one of them.
    Cheers,
    Greg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwijibo99 View Post
    I swapped my Bunnings D argon for an E, easy as pie, only drawback it the E's are $300.00 deposit so had to pay an extra $100.00 on top of the fill. Beauty is I can swap between types or return full stop and get my full deposit back at any time. I'm a low level user and an E cyiliner will last me between 12 to 18 months so the slightly higher fill price doesn't matter to me. Not a lot of things I like about the green shed but their Coregas deal is definitely one of them.
    Cheers,
    Greg.
    Just dont loose your receipt. I heard they wont take it back without one. But I also heard they will accept a photo of the original receipt on your phone. Best to check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Keen View Post
    BOC D E or G size plans. D size is $108. E is $199 (this is what I'm on- get an included refill each year with no deposit- and there are plenty of gas agents around in the areas I work)
    D size is $108. E is $199, this is still the rental per year isn`t it with one refill per year.

    I used CIG then BOC for nearly 30 years. There were times I paid and did not use gas for years but I liked the idea of having it there if I needed it.
    With all the companies offering gas I tried to get a better deal BOC. No go so 18 months ago I took all my bottles back. Suddenly they offered me all sorts of discounts and deals because I was a valued customer. To little to late.

    Tony

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    Yeah, the D plan is a yearly fee, but on the other hand I'm getting something for my coin unlike the traditional rental thing. Plus I don't want to have my $300 held ransom forever. I've got better things to do with that money, and I actually use my cylinder each year, unlike some who buy them to collect dust...

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    I see now on the bunnings web site that they do E size bottle which is good. I am sure a couple years ago or less it was just D size. Of course I am assuming and hoping that the E size is available at the same store that I go to for the D size as not all stores do the Gas bottles .I notice the refill price is $159 the same as Total tools. $475 for new bottle and gas with Total tools for E size

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    Bunnings don't need a copy of the receipt for refill swap.
    Swapping from from D to E was done as a return of the D, refund of $200 deposit and new E with a new $300 deposit + $150ish for the fill.
    Using scan of original receipt on phone was no problem, they just need to be able to read the numbers.

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    Just an FYI for everyone, Not all Bunnings stores that carry Coregas sell D and E size bottles. My not so local store Balgowlah 2093 which have D don't stock E size. I have phoned head office this morning to find a store that sells E size bottles. Seems like Castle hill 2154 is my nearest store that stock E size at least according to the website?
    P.s I have confirmed they are in stock at Castle Hill

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    I use Speed Gas they are cheaper than bunnings and have branches and/or agents all over Sydney I presume you could look up the website or call them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Keen View Post
    Yeah, the D plan is a yearly fee, but on the other hand I'm getting something for my coin unlike the traditional rental thing. Plus I don't want to have my $300 held ransom forever. I've got better things to do with that money, and I actually use my cylinder each year, unlike some who buy them to collect dust...
    You mean that same wonderful company that in 2015 was charging $207.90 for 12 months rental on an E size(with no free fill)?
    So I guess we have something to thank Bunnings for.

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