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    Hi,

    Im new on this website. I subscribed to this forum to find a job as a 6g welder in Melbourne.

    Can anyone point me some directions where to look when Im there. (in about four months)

    Jim

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    Hi Jim,

    Welcome to the mob.
    About your request
    Our little metalwork forum is basically a hobbyist community.
    While there are a few welding trades people here, not many of them are involved in certification level welding, so really only a handful of us would realise what this 6G-ASME pipe welding position- you are referring to ,is.
    I have a background in the above but live at the other end of the country, so I am little help for you..
    May be some of our contributors that are familiar with Melbourne, might be good enough to point you towards some companies that specialise in pipe and pressure vessel work.

    Cheers
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    Bloke

    Forget Melbourne, if you are looking for work in your field of expertise, the Pilbara is the place for you. There are specialised contracting companies that do mine shutdowns, build processing plants for gas, gold & nickel. Google and see what you find.

    DD

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    Thx for replying guys

    To be honest. The location isn't all that important. Most important is the job. So if it takes me to the Pilbra Than so be it.

    I just have to find a company that offers me a sponsorship for a skilled working visa.

    I think it would be wise to make an appointment up front before I come to aussie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim75 View Post
    I think it would be wise to make an appointment up front before I come to aussie.
    Would be even wiser to visit the Pilbara during January to check out the weather conditions before committing to a welding job in the area...

    Unless of course 50° in the shade dressed in full welding PPE is your cup of tea!

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    I guess thats a bit to hot for welding outside

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    Hi all .I m new to this forum and also don’t know much about welding.Any recommendations for a good place to get cheap metal in Melbourne area.Thanks ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim75 View Post
    Thx for replying guys

    To be honest. The location isn't all that important. Most important is the job. So if it takes me to the Pilbra Than so be it.

    I just have to find a company that offers me a sponsorship for a skilled working visa.

    I think it would be wise to make an appointment up front before I come to aussie.
    to be honest what welding jobs left in melbourne are mostly all taken, mostly by visa holders , fair enough if there's a shortage of welders no problem, but there's not,
    visa holders are taking aussie jobs while at the same time driving down pay rates
    i have worked on job sites where the boss just employed visa holders to pay lower rates
    i have been in the industry over 30 years and worked on pipe lines and lots on major projects and it stinks when there's no enough work for australian welders.
    i know many welders who cant get work
    these visas need to be scrapped we are not in a boom , almost a recession and no wage growth
    no offence but there's not enough work here for aussie welders , try another country like china , they have a lot of manufacturing at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge at4 View Post
    to be honest what welding jobs left in melbourne are mostly all taken, mostly by visa holders , fair enough if there's a shortage of welders no problem, but there's not,
    visa holders are taking aussie jobs while at the same time driving down pay rates
    i have worked on job sites where the boss just employed visa holders to pay lower rates
    i have been in the industry over 30 years and worked on pipe lines and lots on major projects and it stinks when there's no enough work for australian welders.
    i know many welders who cant get work
    these visas need to be scrapped we are not in a boom , almost a recession and no wage growth
    no offence but there's not enough work here for aussie welders , try another country like china , they have a lot of manufacturing at the moment

    Hopefully he has a job by now, this thread was started over 9 years ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Com_VC View Post
    Hopefully he has a job by now, this thread was started over 9 years ago!
    nothing has changed, the 4571 visa is still on going, full time permanent jobs are now either abn or labour hire, one structural steel company in melbourne to cut cost went to the philippines to arrange boiler makers and welders on such visas to cut cost and conditions
    no more training or apprenticeships for our young, all labour hire or abn once the jobs done out the door
    it a real shame the industry still allows these 4571 visas and labour hire and abns
    i have taught at tafe and feel sorry for the kids hopeful of full time employment and good wages once they get there tickets
    it is not what it use to be and these visas need to be stopped or we wont have any young aussie boilermakers or welders in the near future

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge at4 View Post
    nothing has changed, the 4571 visa is still on going, full time permanent jobs are now either abn or labour hire, one structural steel company in melbourne to cut cost went to the philippines to arrange boiler makers and welders on such visas to cut cost and conditions
    no more training or apprenticeships for our young, all labour hire or abn once the jobs done out the door
    it a real shame the industry still allows these 4571 visas and labour hire and abns
    i have taught at tafe and feel sorry for the kids hopeful of full time employment and good wages once they get there tickets
    it is not what it use to be and these visas need to be stopped or we wont have any young aussie boilermakers or welders in the near future
    I know what you mean about no training going on and the prevalence of 457 visa holders and labour hire companies.
    To be honest, in many cases, we are reaping what we sowed. I don't see too many young people wanting to take up the trade and I don't believe it is due to poor wages in total as frankly, apprentices have never had it better than what they do currently. I see plenty of entitled little prima donnas who don't want to get dirty and believe they should start at the top.
    My previous employer, (I was Foreman so I had a major part in this situation), had an apprenticeship on offer for a young bloke (or blokette) who showed a bit of spark. We had four casuals come and go and none could get out of their own way. We eventually took on an apprentice through a group trainer and he lasted less than three months. His demise came the day that he was told that he needed to lift his game on a particular job. He did not get yelled at, reamed or threatened, simply told that he was continually failing to use the knowledge he had and was costing the company money. He resigned that day via text message.
    Let's look at the ones that do gain their trade papers these days. Most that I have come across are not fit to lick a Boilermakers boots. Employers are now allowed to pick and choose modules (one previous employer did not want apprentices trained in stick welding because "nobody uses that anymore") and the current crop are in many cases only fit to weld RHS together or weld cleats on beams. I have worked with a young bloke fresh out of his time who could not light an oxy torch, let alone use it. If I asked them to fabricate a square to round transition, I would get a blank look, a Carbon Equivalent would be meaningless to them and don't even think of asking them to weld cast iron. Work is something that they fit in between social engagements and they expect a gazillion dollars to get out of bed. Go to a dinner party and when somene asks what you do for a living, tell them you are a Boilermaker. I guarantee you that they will quickly turn their back on you and talk to someone more interesting. I have proven this. I have had three job titles in my life so far. Boilermaker, Hard Rock Miner (Boilermaker when required) and Metalwork Instructor working with disengaged grade 9 and 10 student in a production workshop setting. Boilermaker got the most boo's at social engagements, Hard Rock Miner probably got the most interest, but Metalwork Instructor was a close second. The position with the highest skill requirement was Boilermaker, but got the lowest interest from the wider community.
    You know what? 457 visa holders look better every day and I hate that because I love my trade and am proud to call myself a Boilermaker. I can now see why all my old TAFE teachers took early retirement as soon as they could.
    Australia has gone from a country that could and did build everything to a country with little or no manufacturing and little depth of manufacturing knowledge and we did it to ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl Robbers View Post
    I know what you mean about no training going on and the prevalence of 457 visa holders and labour hire companies.
    To be honest, in many cases, we are reaping what we sowed. I don't see too many young people wanting to take up the trade and I don't believe it is due to poor wages in total as frankly, apprentices have never had it better than what they do currently. I see plenty of entitled little prima donnas who don't want to get dirty and believe they should start at the top.
    My previous employer, (I was Foreman so I had a major part in this situation), had an apprenticeship on offer for a young bloke (or blokette) who showed a bit of spark. We had four casuals come and go and none could get out of their own way. We eventually took on an apprentice through a group trainer and he lasted less than three months. His demise came the day that he was told that he needed to lift his game on a particular job. He did not get yelled at, reamed or threatened, simply told that he was continually failing to use the knowledge he had and was costing the company money. He resigned that day via text message.
    Let's look at the ones that do gain their trade papers these days. Most that I have come across are not fit to lick a Boilermakers boots. Employers are now allowed to pick and choose modules (one previous employer did not want apprentices trained in stick welding because "nobody uses that anymore") and the current crop are in many cases only fit to weld RHS together or weld cleats on beams. I have worked with a young bloke fresh out of his time who could not light an oxy torch, let alone use it. If I asked them to fabricate a square to round transition, I would get a blank look, a Carbon Equivalent would be meaningless to them and don't even think of asking them to weld cast iron. Work is something that they fit in between social engagements and they expect a gazillion dollars to get out of bed. Go to a dinner party and when somene asks what you do for a living, tell them you are a Boilermaker. I guarantee you that they will quickly turn their back on you and talk to someone more interesting. I have proven this. I have had three job titles in my life so far. Boilermaker, Hard Rock Miner (Boilermaker when required) and Metalwork Instructor working with disengaged grade 9 and 10 student in a production workshop setting. Boilermaker got the most boo's at social engagements, Hard Rock Miner probably got the most interest, but Metalwork Instructor was a close second. The position with the highest skill requirement was Boilermaker, but got the lowest interest from the wider community.
    You know what? 457 visa holders look better every day and I hate that because I love my trade and am proud to call myself a Boilermaker. I can now see why all my old TAFE teachers took early retirement as soon as they could.
    Australia has gone from a country that could and did build everything to a country with little or no manufacturing and little depth of manufacturing knowledge and we did it to ourselves.
    just from my own experience, we no longer have large manufacturing companies employing full time staff and training apprentices, one company would have at least 5-10 on at any one time out of 200-300, not any more all contract , casual or labour hire
    take pipe line welding as an example, do you think john holland trains young australians to earn upwards of $5000 a week, no they fly in 4571 visas even TAs are flown in earning $2000-2500 a week just to roll out a power leads
    many young i spoke and trained at tafe gaining tickets would love a opportunity to work and earn that sort of money but because of the visa system its cheaper to fly in welders on mass even TAS for these jobs
    many years ago i was sent to a structural steel welding job in the city which i was told would be ongoing for a few months only to find out i was filling in for a 457 visa holder who had gone back home on holidays for two weeks
    see what a mean , i love the industry as well and yes some kids wont work , but a lot do and the classes i taught at tafe were kids doing if off there own bat wanting good full time employment that just dont get the chance any more
    thats my say on 457 visas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satwinder Singh View Post
    Hi all .I m new to this forum and also don’t know much about welding.Any recommendations for a good place to get cheap metal in Melbourne area.Thanks ..


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    Hi Satwinder Singh

    Welcome to our MetalWork Forum albeit somewhat late.
    Not being from Melbourne all I can suggest it perhaps if you check out scrap dealers you will find cheap metal to weld on.
    Welding apart the forums are a very interesting place with members who have interest and knowledge over a wide range of metalwork related topics.

    Grahame

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    Hi Grahame thanks .i will try with the scrap metal dealers in the area.
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