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29th May 2010, 07:53 AM #1New Member
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Welding in Melbourne
Hi,
Im new on this website. I subscribed to this forum to find a job as a 6g welder in Melbourne.
Can anyone point me some directions where to look when Im there. (in about four months)
Jim
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30th May 2010, 08:46 AM #2
Hi Jim,
Welcome to the mob.
About your request
Our little metalwork forum is basically a hobbyist community.
While there are a few welding trades people here, not many of them are involved in certification level welding, so really only a handful of us would realise what this 6G-ASME pipe welding position- you are referring to ,is.
I have a background in the above but live at the other end of the country, so I am little help for you..
May be some of our contributors that are familiar with Melbourne, might be good enough to point you towards some companies that specialise in pipe and pressure vessel work.
Cheers
Grahame
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2nd Jun 2010, 10:19 AM #3Senior Member
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Welding Job
Bloke
Forget Melbourne, if you are looking for work in your field of expertise, the Pilbara is the place for you. There are specialised contracting companies that do mine shutdowns, build processing plants for gas, gold & nickel. Google and see what you find.
DD
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5th Jun 2010, 10:14 PM #4New Member
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Thx for replying guys
To be honest. The location isn't all that important. Most important is the job. So if it takes me to the Pilbra Than so be it.
I just have to find a company that offers me a sponsorship for a skilled working visa.
I think it would be wise to make an appointment up front before I come to aussie.
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6th Jun 2010, 11:13 AM #5Boilermaker
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6th Jun 2010, 06:33 PM #6New Member
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I guess thats a bit to hot for welding outside
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22nd Oct 2019, 07:17 PM #7Intermediate Member
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Hi all .I m new to this forum and also don’t know much about welding.Any recommendations for a good place to get cheap metal in Melbourne area.Thanks ..
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13th Dec 2019, 06:44 PM #8Senior Member
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to be honest what welding jobs left in melbourne are mostly all taken, mostly by visa holders , fair enough if there's a shortage of welders no problem, but there's not,
visa holders are taking aussie jobs while at the same time driving down pay rates
i have worked on job sites where the boss just employed visa holders to pay lower rates
i have been in the industry over 30 years and worked on pipe lines and lots on major projects and it stinks when there's no enough work for australian welders.
i know many welders who cant get work
these visas need to be scrapped we are not in a boom , almost a recession and no wage growth
no offence but there's not enough work here for aussie welders , try another country like china , they have a lot of manufacturing at the moment
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13th Dec 2019, 10:03 PM #9Diamond Member
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14th Dec 2019, 01:23 PM #10Senior Member
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nothing has changed, the 4571 visa is still on going, full time permanent jobs are now either abn or labour hire, one structural steel company in melbourne to cut cost went to the philippines to arrange boiler makers and welders on such visas to cut cost and conditions
no more training or apprenticeships for our young, all labour hire or abn once the jobs done out the door
it a real shame the industry still allows these 4571 visas and labour hire and abns
i have taught at tafe and feel sorry for the kids hopeful of full time employment and good wages once they get there tickets
it is not what it use to be and these visas need to be stopped or we wont have any young aussie boilermakers or welders in the near future
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16th Dec 2019, 10:56 PM #11Most Valued Member
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I know what you mean about no training going on and the prevalence of 457 visa holders and labour hire companies.
To be honest, in many cases, we are reaping what we sowed. I don't see too many young people wanting to take up the trade and I don't believe it is due to poor wages in total as frankly, apprentices have never had it better than what they do currently. I see plenty of entitled little prima donnas who don't want to get dirty and believe they should start at the top.
My previous employer, (I was Foreman so I had a major part in this situation), had an apprenticeship on offer for a young bloke (or blokette) who showed a bit of spark. We had four casuals come and go and none could get out of their own way. We eventually took on an apprentice through a group trainer and he lasted less than three months. His demise came the day that he was told that he needed to lift his game on a particular job. He did not get yelled at, reamed or threatened, simply told that he was continually failing to use the knowledge he had and was costing the company money. He resigned that day via text message.
Let's look at the ones that do gain their trade papers these days. Most that I have come across are not fit to lick a Boilermakers boots. Employers are now allowed to pick and choose modules (one previous employer did not want apprentices trained in stick welding because "nobody uses that anymore") and the current crop are in many cases only fit to weld RHS together or weld cleats on beams. I have worked with a young bloke fresh out of his time who could not light an oxy torch, let alone use it. If I asked them to fabricate a square to round transition, I would get a blank look, a Carbon Equivalent would be meaningless to them and don't even think of asking them to weld cast iron. Work is something that they fit in between social engagements and they expect a gazillion dollars to get out of bed. Go to a dinner party and when somene asks what you do for a living, tell them you are a Boilermaker. I guarantee you that they will quickly turn their back on you and talk to someone more interesting. I have proven this. I have had three job titles in my life so far. Boilermaker, Hard Rock Miner (Boilermaker when required) and Metalwork Instructor working with disengaged grade 9 and 10 student in a production workshop setting. Boilermaker got the most boo's at social engagements, Hard Rock Miner probably got the most interest, but Metalwork Instructor was a close second. The position with the highest skill requirement was Boilermaker, but got the lowest interest from the wider community.
You know what? 457 visa holders look better every day and I hate that because I love my trade and am proud to call myself a Boilermaker. I can now see why all my old TAFE teachers took early retirement as soon as they could.
Australia has gone from a country that could and did build everything to a country with little or no manufacturing and little depth of manufacturing knowledge and we did it to ourselves.
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17th Dec 2019, 10:05 AM #12Senior Member
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just from my own experience, we no longer have large manufacturing companies employing full time staff and training apprentices, one company would have at least 5-10 on at any one time out of 200-300, not any more all contract , casual or labour hire
take pipe line welding as an example, do you think john holland trains young australians to earn upwards of $5000 a week, no they fly in 4571 visas even TAs are flown in earning $2000-2500 a week just to roll out a power leads
many young i spoke and trained at tafe gaining tickets would love a opportunity to work and earn that sort of money but because of the visa system its cheaper to fly in welders on mass even TAS for these jobs
many years ago i was sent to a structural steel welding job in the city which i was told would be ongoing for a few months only to find out i was filling in for a 457 visa holder who had gone back home on holidays for two weeks
see what a mean , i love the industry as well and yes some kids wont work , but a lot do and the classes i taught at tafe were kids doing if off there own bat wanting good full time employment that just dont get the chance any more
thats my say on 457 visas
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17th Dec 2019, 11:00 AM #13
Hi Satwinder Singh
Welcome to our MetalWork Forum albeit somewhat late.
Not being from Melbourne all I can suggest it perhaps if you check out scrap dealers you will find cheap metal to weld on.
Welding apart the forums are a very interesting place with members who have interest and knowledge over a wide range of metalwork related topics.
Grahame
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17th Dec 2019, 08:42 PM #14Intermediate Member
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Hi Grahame thanks .i will try with the scrap metal dealers in the area.
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