Adding A Pic To Your Post

[ubeaut]

By all means, please feel free to post photos on this site. It's easily done. You need to have the photo on your computer then after you have finished typing in your message all you have to do is click Browse in the Attach file section above the Submit button.

Find the file on your computer and Robert's your mothers brother.

But for goodness sake please edit them first and make them a sensible size Max size 102kb or there abouts. Preferred file size AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE That doesn't mean that the picture has to be really small, just the file.

Cropping away needless oversized backgrounds so as to just include the object you want to show is always a big help. Saving as a .jpg file at 72 dpi is another way of reducing file size. Monitors don.t show any more than that resolution anyway so it is a waste of time and space posting a 600dpi pic.

Full image with needless background 25kb
http://www.ubeaut.biz/jarrah chest1.jpg
Cropped image 23kb
http://www.ubeaut.biz/jarrah chest1a.jpg
Pics do not have to be as small as these, they are examples only

Have fun and show off your work etc. but use a bit of common sense.

Cheers - Neil.:)

[derekcohen]

Neil

Is it possible to post more than one pic at a time (that is, within the same frame)? If so, how?

Regards from Perth

Derek

[ubeaut]

To put more than on pic in a post you must be able to supply a link to a web address.

click on the IMG link above where you type your post and put in the link to the pic you wish to show. eg http://www.ubeaut.biz/eyepaper.gif will bring up this image:
http://www.ubeaut.biz/eyepaper.gif
http://www.ubeaut.biz/eyepurp.gif will bring up this image:
http://www.ubeaut.biz/eyepurp.gif
http://www.ubeaut.biz/eyewierd.gif will bring up this one:
http://www.ubeaut.biz/eyewierd.gif
and http://www.ubeaut.biz/eyesqr.gif will give you this:
http://www.ubeaut.biz/eyesqr.gif

To get these 4 images I had to click on the IMG button and fill in the required info 4 times. I could have done the same thing by simply typing before the link address and [/img ] (without the space between the g and the ]) after the link address for each pic.

Try clicking on the edit button bellow to see what the info in this post looks like and that should give you an idea what I am talking about.

Hope this is a bit clearer mud.

Cheers - Neil [img]http://www.ubeaut.biz/wave.gif Lookout there's another one.

PS CLICK HERE (http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/misc.php?s=&action=bbcode#imgcode) for more info on this and other codes you can use when posting in these forums.

[Dan]

So, the images have to exist in an online photo album?

[ubeaut]

Yep, or on your own site, someone elses site (beware of copyright) or a host site, etc.

Most half decent service providers are happy to host a small site for you to store photos or home page etc. for free.

You will need an FTP program to upload the pics to the site and probably a decent photo editing program to keep the kb size down or you will quickly run out of storage space on your site.

[Rocker]

I have posted a number of pics in the past, but now suddenly the normal method is not working for me. What am I doing wrong? Or is there a bug in the system at present?

[Oldblock]

So much for uploading, I recently tried to 'extract' a photo from BB post but couldn't find the actual attachment.

Can this be done and if so, How?

[paulver]

Like Rocker, I was unsuccessful in attaching a photo recently. I ended up having to create a link to the photo on a hosted page. (option 2)

Frissen frassen frecken computers... (Muttley from the "Wacky Racers")

[bigAl]

Hi Ubeaut,

Just a thought if the disk space isn't the problem on the new server, make sure you have write permissions on the directory that's storing the pictures. Just a thought...

Alain

[ubeaut]

It appears to be a server problem of some sort happened after they switched servers on the 9th and so far we haven't been able to rectify it. We are trying.

It isn't a space problem we now have 150 meg of space more than ample. The write permissions are fine and everything else looks normal. However........???

[Rocker]

The trouble with this excellent forum is that some of us have become severely addicted to it. So, when one of its most important features doesn't work, we suffer severe withdrawal symptoms.

Of course, we have no right whatsoever to complain, since we do not contribute financially to its upkeep. But I just ask the gurus and geeks who are working on the restoration of the picture-posting feature to remember us poor addicts shivering and jibbering in the agony of going cold turkey, and to redouble their efforts to find a solution to the problem soon.

By the way, perhaps ubeaut should be charging the ISPs a commission; I have found that my excess charges for downloads have risen considerably since I became a member of the forum.

[Rocker]

oops; the problem is cured; many thanks to all who achieved this happy outcome.;)

[barrysumpter]

Hi all,

I've been using PSP for qucik and dirty copy and pasting pics for years but havn't needed to reduce the size beyond reducing to 2 colors.

I'm now onto Paint Shop Pro 8.

Anyone have a simple step by step process for reducing pics to a decent size for this forum using Paint Shop Pro 8?

[Rocker]

Barry,

I have PSP 7. In that, you do Image>Resize, and then change the photo width to 15 cm, and hit OK

[hotrod100]

Help
All Right I give in, I've just spent the last 25 years (well maybe not quite that long)..... but a bloody long time, trying to get a picture/file inserted from the

MANAGE ATTACHMENTS box below to this box here. When I preview the post,..."IT"... isnt there.

Do you think "IT" will move ...no way, Ive talked to "IT", swore at "IT",
even threatened to set the wife on "IT", all to no avail.
Now I'm sure you learned people, have overcome the problem's of "IT",
so please pass on the info, and save an old guy from sinking in the
"..IT" :eek:

TA Rod :D

[Grunt]

Rod,

Have a look at this thread. I think the problem is that the picture won't show when you do a preview, only when the post is finally submitted.

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?p=71382#post71382

Grunt

[hotrod100]

Grunt

Thank's Grunt, on refelection your probably right on the money with that info,I'll give it a go first thing tommorow, too tired now "IT" has worn me out,(that pic you posted ..he's one good looking dude ).
Thank's Again Rod :D

[A-Marks]

you asked -

Anyone have a simple step by step process for reducing pics to a decent size for this forum using Paint Shop Pro 8?[/QUOTE]
OK this is a loose explanation of the major elements that effect image size on computers...first a bit of back ground - Monitors display graphics at a rate of 72 pixles per inch, so an image that measures 640 x 480 pixles will display pretty nice in a web page if your monitore is less than 17" confused already?
Imagine this: when windows sets up your screen it asks for a resolution, as most of us use 17" monitors a good res is 800 x 600 so anyimage less than that should fitr into the screen part of a web page. Now how to get that resolution into your image posting...

From your favourite image manipulation application

open your picture

find the menu bit that tells you what its resolution is ( try right clicking the image) now in Photshop it gives you two main figures one is pixles/inch the other is the actual pixle size ie 300ppi and 10"/10". which at 72ppi ( remember this is the res of you monitior) this will display as 41.67 inches wide a lot wider than needed, the math is simople enough and you dont kneed to know it anyway.
get back to the graphic app - from the image size part of your menu choose RESIZE & if your app allows it - set the pixle depth to 72 and the overall pixle dimensions to no larger than 700 wide or if its an up and down image no more than 550 pixles high.

That accomplishes part one which has resized your image display dimensions

You now have to save it as a JPG ( pronounced JayPEG) jpg's are the smallest file size (Bytes this time) available for true colour images When you select jpg from the "save as" option look for an options box in which you can set the Compression ratio of the image. The more you compress the image the smaller the file size becomes . jpg compression (sometimes called quality) is usually is shown as a sliding bar or text field the lower the number the more it compresses. anything between 2 and 65 is suitable comprtession for a website imge. That concludes part two image compression 101.

Now to recap and consolidate

1. Open your image
2. Resize it to 72 ppi
3. Change the dimensions to less tha 700 wide or if portrait 550 high
4. Choose jpg as the file type to save as
5. Set the compression to low 2 - 65
6. Save the image with a different name to your original (important)
7. Close the original images and open the new compressed on if its too blotchy re-open your original and do it all again but this time use less compression try 40% and have a look

The above technique can transform a typically 1 meg byte digital camera or scanned image to about 20Kbytes and keep your network administrator so happy!

Allan Cooloolabin Qld.
if you want to see some of my work heres my web site
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~midisoul
There's some of my woodwork images and some jokes too

[Barry_White]

you asked -


Allan Cooloolabin Qld.
if you want to see some of my work heres my web site
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~midisoul
There's some of my woodwork images and some jokes too
Well that link didn't work. Big green screen with a white rectangle. Very interesting!

[Sturdee]

Bazza,

Must be your end as it works for me.


Peter.

[Shane Watson]

yeah I got into it ok too

[Don Nethercott]

I haven't used PSP for a while but all the graphics programs I have used seem to work the same way.
Click File/Save As
In the dialog box that opens you should see (usually buttom left) a More button.
Click on the More button. A new window should open up and there should be a sliding scale (from 0 to 100%).
Adjust this to say 20% and save the file (under a new name in case you make a mistake). Then check the size. If too big or too small, redo it.
Hope this works for you.
Regards
Don

[Don Nethercott]

Just a quick update on good graphics programs. University of Washington PHD students, funded by Microsoft, wrote a replacemant program for the old Paing in Windows.

The program is available FREE from http://www.getpaint.net/index.html

I think it is a good as Paint Shop Pro or Photoshop.

The beauty of this program is that when saving a jpg it gives you a slider to adjust the saved size and tells you exactly what size the saved pic will be.

Don

[derekcohen]

Thanks for that Don. It looks an excellent program - I have just had a quick look at it.

Incidentally, a good program for resizing images is JPEG Resampler. It is free as well. Just Google for it.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[scooter]

Agree with you, Don, have been using paint.net for a little while.

For anyone looking to install it, you will need to download or source the .NET framework as well.

I found it on a cover disc on a computer mag, saved downloading the program & the framework, which would have taken a while on my dialup.

Paint.net can be used for a lot of adjustments to your images, uses layers, unlimited undo, etc.

I find my most common sequence is:

Download pic from camera to computer
Right click pic & Open With Paint.net
Perform any image adjustments - brightness, color cast, etc
Crop image
Resize pic to 800x600 pixels
Save As, set compression/resultant file size as Don mentioned using the slider.

I vary the compression for the forum from 50kb for the pics in my wip woodrack thread, to 80-90 kb for pics needing max detail.

The above is quite quick to do & only needs the one program.

Obviously not as feature rich as Photoshop but has some powerful capabilities, opens a lot faster, and the price is right. :)


Cheers...................Sean

[MoonShine]

Hi all, new here and finding the forum enjoyable and very informative.
What I'd like to know re; Pics in Posts is how do you add them 'Thumbnails' I've noticed in quite a few posts please?

I have an FTP site through my ISP and find its a great place to store them high res photo's to link off to for those with higher bandwidth.

Any help much appreciated, thanks.

[Captain Chaos]

G'day Paul,
First off, welcome to the Woodwork Forums. Just keep your sense of humour with you at all times & enjoy the fun.:D
In regards to posting pictures perhaps the best option would be to go here (http://woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=3945)
and read the posts, I reckon that you'll get the drift of how it's done. It worked for me. If I can do it, anyone can.:o:D.
If you would like to post pictures from an online Photo Album, eg, PictureTrail, Photo Bucket etc, just click on the Insert Image button ( the one with the mountains & sun ? ) on the tool bar and type in the URL of the image from your photo album & click on the OK button. Bingo, your picture should then be displayed in your post.
Hope that this is of some help to you Paul.
Regards,
Barry.

[MoonShine]

Thanks Barry, unfortunately the go here link doesn't work.
I'm assuming the thumbnails also link off to a URL same as the Insert Image?

[Captain Chaos]

Hello Paul,
Damn, sorry 'bout that.:o Try this link. http://woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=3945

Go down to "Additional Options" below & click on "Manage Attachments". Click on "Browse". This shows the folders which you have your files / images stored on the computer. Select the file / image which you wish to add to your post & click on "Save". You should see the URL of the file / image in the box to the left of the "Browse" button. When you have selected all the files etc that you require, click on the "Upload" button. Once all the files have uploaded onto UBWWF's server, close the window.
Once you have finished compiling your post, click on the "Preview Post" button to check. Click on the "Submit Reply" button & the images will display as thumbnails in your post .
This is probably as clear as mud to you Paul. Sorry:(
Read through thread above & all will be clear - I hope.:confused::)
Regards,
Barry.

[MoonShine]

Hey no probs thanks Barry, much appreciated:)

[ivanearl]

Can anyone explain briefly or extensively on how they prepare their pictures; what software they use and the final sizes they aim at. I had a number that i attempted to upload, however, the program must have seized up as I gave up after a few minutes. When I prepare anything for ebay I use Photoshop and convert a batch of images to 400x600 ppi and set resolution at 72 dpi. That way I know that the ebay processor will upload quickly and my images will remain appealing.
In the spirit of the discussion I've uploaded (I think I have) a scan of a book I'm considering selling, however, it didn't work: viz: british forest trees3.jpg: The Dimension limits for this filetype are 800 x 800. We were unable to resize your file so you will need to do so manually and upload it again. Your file is currently 3395 x 2208.
The image is 3.1 mb, which is not large but then again, it is for this system. I then reduced the image to 1.2mb and I got this:
british forest trees3 copy.jpg:
The Dimension limits for this filetype are 800 x 800. We were unable to resize your file so you will need to do so manually and upload it again. Your file is currently 815 x 530: wow! So I went even lower 3"x4.4"x72dpi. Okay, it uploaded, however, on my screen I cannot see any detail. But the outline is there. Is this what you expect and find acceptable?
What's advised by the organisers I wonder?


Thanks Ivan Earl

[DJ’s Timber]

The image can be no larger than 800px x 600px and must be under 100kb.

[BantyMom]

I use Photoshop Elements.

I use the cropping tool (set at 72 dpi) to get as close as I can to what I want to show

They I go to:

File --> Save for Web

This opens a large panel for adjusting the picture.
Check the box for "optimized."
Set the Quality for 50%
Set the largest dimension for 600 px and be sure to click "Apply"

This will shrink and compress your jpg wonderfully. If it is still too large, you can play with the quality, looking at the right-hand window to see if you are losing any important detail. You can also play with the dimensions more.

It will save it as a jpg. I always add "web" at the end of the name so I know later that it's already been compressed if I want to use it again.

Let me know if you think I should post screen shots to make this easier to understand.

[Spanner69]

test only - 2

[watson]

:2tsup:Ya did well Spanner